User talk:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD

Hi

I'm considering getting this bot-thinger because it will help me close contreversies but I don't know how. Please help me thanks very much. Dipotassitrimanganate (talk) 15:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC) 15:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Incorrect tag placement by script

I've noticed that when closing AfD's, this tool places the ({{Old AfD multi}}) tag

at the top of article talk pages. Please note that per administrator instructions for closing AfD's, located here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Administrator instructions, the instructions are to place the tag below Wikiproject headers:

"Click "edit" on the article page and copy the entire {{Old AfD multi}} template that is inside the AfD tag, then paste that entire template onto the article's talk page (normally below the WikiProject tags, if applicable), and then save using an edit summary such as "Adding {{Old AfD multi}}"."

Hopefully the script can be modified to place the tags below the WikiProject headers in article talk pages. Northamerica1000^(talk) 08:42, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Safari

It works fine in Safari, at least with version 5.1.7 on MacOSX DGG ( talk ) 23:15, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit conflict

It would be great if something could be built in to avoid things such as this ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 00:36, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

AFD closer script

Hi I used your script. Can you take a quick look and see if I added it correctly ThanksTucsonDavidU.S.A. 01:22, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Close in progress templates

The templates {{Closing}} or {{AfDh}} and {{AfDb}} should be removed if present when closing an AfD. It would also be useful if the script had a button to insert such a template while reviewing. This helps prevent duplication of effort on pages that take a long time to assess and close. Thanks, SpinningSpark 09:55, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Relisting comments

The relisting template has a facility for the relister to leave a comment, see WP:AFD/AI#Relisting AfDs. The script should likewise allow for such a comment to be added. SpinningSpark 11:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

oldAFDfull template not filled in correctly for second nomination

The script made this edit to the talk page of a closed second AFD nomination. The link to the deletion debate is incorrect, even though the correct location is entered in the edit summary. Also, the pre-existence of the {{Old AFD multi}} has been completely ignored. Note that this page is in the Draft namespace because it was subsequently moved, it was in mainspace as normal when the AFD was closed. SpinningSpark 17:35, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Feature Request - Redirects

I was talking with Davewild about this edit I've had to make many times when people close asteroid AfDs as redirects. Would it be possible for you to make these optional additions to your closing script? Specifically, to give the user the option to add {{R to list entry}} when the redirect target page starts with "List of", and to propagate the {{DefaultSort}} and categories of the original article so it doesn't end up in Category:Uncategorized. Thanks.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  13:32, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Maybe even make a special redirect format for any article that redirects to a "List of minor planets" page (built off of my edit above), since there are about 3,700 non-redirects left out of ~20,000 asteroid articles (many bot-made) that will bounce in and out of redirects for a long time.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)  13:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Script gone wild?

I recently closed an AfD which involved deleting a redirect, which was (as far as I can tell), created after the original page was proposed for deletion. It looks like the script went nuts and deleted a bunch of other pages which were not intended to be deleted. Could you take a look at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/List of Apink concert tours and see if you can figure out what went on? Thanks. 12:37, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

@Mr.Z-man: just want to make sure you saw this. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:11, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Bug: closing already-redirected pages

When I try to close an AfD as redirect where the redirect has already been implemented by someone else (which is kind of out-of-process, but whatever), the script instead implements the redirect on the target (so it goes to itself, making a circular redirect). I think this is because of the change made a while back to the way redirects are handled, where the URL displayed after a redirect is now the target's instead of the redirect's. ansh666 21:01, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Closing "List of <something>" discussions as delete

I earlier today came across the orphaned article talk page Talk:Comettor and noticed that the deletion log reported DGG as having deleted the corresponding article on 27 June following the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons. But no other articles were bundled into the discussion.

As DGG noticed in his reply (Special:Permalink/727829401#Comettor), multiple articles were deleted when this discussion was closed:

• Overcast (Transformers) (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Wedge Shape (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Dualor (Transformers) (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Spiral (Transformers) (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Mini-Con Assault Team (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Comettor (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• List of Transformers Armada Mini-Cons (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Heavy Barrel (Transformers) (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Dualor (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Sky Terror Team (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Firebot (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Knockdown (Transformers) (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Reverb (Transformers) (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Deep Space Team (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Micron Booster (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• List of known Mini-Cons (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)
• Torque (Transformers) (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mini-Cons closed as delete)

I now encounter Talk:Imara (Charmed Character) and the scenario looks a bit similar: the deletion log reports Joe Decker as having deleted it following Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of guest characters in Charmed. That discussion did have five other articles bundled, but looking at Joe's deletion log two further were zapped, namely

• Imara (Charmed Character), and
• Sam Wilder (Charmed).

Sam Sailor ^Talk! 16:09, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

That's interesting, thank you for noting this. I was a bit surprised as well. The two articles in question above were deleted by the AfD processing software as they were redirects to the deleted list pages. I believe that's an appropriate, or at least, usual outcome--we don't leave redirects to nowhere. But shouldn't preclude the creation of workable redirects if there are other targets where the characters are mentioned. --joe decker^talk 16:48, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

I have *not* checked all of the links to the other page, but it appears that something similar happened there. --joe decker^talk 16:49, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Ah, those were redirects? But should the associated talk pages then not be deleted simultaneously? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 17:59, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

That'd be a good idea, I'll clean up Imara and Sam. --joe decker^talk 18:35, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

And I've fixed my part DGG ( talk ) 05:07, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

RFC: redirect to XFDcloser?

The following discussion is an archived record of a request for comment. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The redirect has been already executed and there seems to be little interest and/or problems.So, closing.Winged Blades of Godric^{On leave} 14:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

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Should this userscript be redirected to XFDcloser? Evad37 [talk] 04:43, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Mr.Z-man's been gone for a while[1], and this CloseAFD script has multiple unresolved issues (see sections above here). XFDcloser is a script I wrote as a replacement that fixes those issues, works at all XfD venues, has many more features (e.g. works on multi-page nomination), and is actively maintained (see its talkpage/archives). Usage is pretty similar, except that the interface dialogue is accessed from inline links next to section headers (on either log pages or individual subpages), rather than from tabs/dropdown menus on the individual subpages. XFDcloser has about 100 users ([2][3] with duplicates, non-.js pages, and links from other scripts removed), CloseAFD has about 70 users ([4][5][6] with duplicates, non-.js pages, and links from other scripts removed).

At Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 155 § User:Mr.Z-man's closeAFD script, TheDJ said

I've recently started just redirecting no longer maintained, but widely used user scripts to maintained ones. No one's complained yet, and it fixes tons of problems. If Xfdcloser has a good user base, and is similar enough that people wouldn't be too bothered by a replace, I'm willing to make such a redirect.

Should User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js and User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD2.js be redirected to User:Evad37/XFDcloser.js? - Evad37 [talk] 04:43, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Absolutely. While I know that everyone has their own preferences (I still occasionally use User:Doug/closetfd.js for awkward TFDs that XFDCloser cannot handle) Z-man's stuff is similar enough to XFDC (and as mentioned, not maintained) that users wouldn't have that much trouble transitioning. Primefac (talk) 12:08, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Sure, why not. I got tired of cleaning up closeAFD's errors a long time ago, and since there's little chance of it being updated (Mr.Z-man was just desysopped for inactivity, after all), it's probably ok to get rid of it. ansh666 08:44, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

I've just gone ahead and done it. If anyone really disagrees with this then please let me know, but to me it seems to be the obvious thing to do. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 13:56, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

• Sorry to bother you but I have been doing non-admin closes at Afd -- non-problematically, I'd add -- for some time. Following Mr. Stradivarius's fix, this option seems to have disappeared from my Afd twinkle menu and my attempts to update the script at User:Shawn in Montreal/monobook.js seem to have been for naught. I realize this isn't the help desk but is there something really obvious I've gotten wrong? Scripts are a mystery to me. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:21, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

The new script moves the close options from a Monobook tab to the right of the AfD discussion's header. There's a shot of the latter at User:Evad37/XFDcloser#Usage czar 17:17, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

I see. Well, I just don't seem to be able to produce that XFDcloser by any means. If I see someone else doing non-admin closes I may ask them, or just leave this to others. thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:40, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@Shawn in Montreal: The version before this diff [7] was the correct syntax (using your own username doesn't work, unless the script is in your userspace). If you revert to that version, and then load an AfD page, do you get any error messages in your browser's JavaScript console? (how to open) Also, which browser/OS are you using? (And you are definitely using the Monobook skin, right?) - Evad37 [talk] 01:12, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

@Evad37: thanks for trying to help. I am using both Chrome on Yosemite on a Apple laptop and Chrome on Windows on a PC and I still can't see the tab any longer for Closing afds. All the other tabs are still there. I do have JavaScript enabled and I do have Monobook selected. Again, it's only the close tab, since the change was made. Odd. Let's see if there's other users in the same situation... thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:51, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

XFDcloser with monobook on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Artificial intelligence in chemistry

@Shawn in Montreal: There's not meant to be a tab anymore – the new script puts [Close] [quickClose] [Relist] links next to the section heading, see image (this allows it to work on daily logpages as well as individual subpages) - Evad37 [talk] 00:39, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

• • Good lord, has that been there all along? I'm 59 years old: sometimes I think it shows. thank you, I can figure it out from here. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:52, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

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