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Wikidata weekly summary #293

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Withdrawn one

[1] So not sure... Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:33, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

The others I have looked at so far have been good. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:36, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
@Doc James: Ah, they used "<title>WITHDRAWN." rather than "<title>WITHDRAWN:". That's easily fixed by checking for "<title>WITHDRAWN", which I'll do from now on. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:56, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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Thanks for your work on the bot for Cochrane. Reviewed all the edits and looks good. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:56, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm glad it's useful. :-) Mike Peel (talk) 10:25, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
I second this barnstar, you beat me to it Doc James. Thanks Mike for all your help and expertise. I appreciate your time and your patience through the troubleshooting process to get it up and running. The bot is very impressive so far and I think adding the automatic archive function was a great idea. JenOttawa (talk) 21:23, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! As a thought, @JenOttawa and Doc James:, would it be useful if the bot put together a separate list of the references to withdrawn articles (not tagging them inline, just listing them on a page)? Presumably there are reasons why they were withdrawn that might mean that the text they are referencing needs to be modified / itself withdrawn? It should be straightforward to do at the same time as checking the refs for the new non-withdrawn updates, but only makes sense if someone would then find the produced list useful. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:02, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
I have seen some items withdrawn as Cochrane feels it is simple out of date, not that their was anything actually wrong with the paper in question. Have brought this up with them and IMO this bit needs to be fixed first :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:08, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

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Your Wikidata RFC

Hi Mike, I've read your WIkidata RFC and made a few tweaks. Overall I think it's very good and comprehensive - not much more I could add to it really. Aside from a couple of typo fixes, the main changes that I made were to the consequences sections for 2C and 2D. Here I expanded the examples a bit for clarity - I hope I didn't misinterpret what happens. Also, I amended the consequences for 4B which I think contained an error, but please can you check this and revert if necessary. The only other part that I think needs work is the "How reliable is Wikidata" section, which is just a list at present without full explanation. Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 21:30, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #296

Nice photos from New York!

Hallo Mike, very good photos! I like them! -> ... Commons:November 2017. The photo in Commons:Contemporary art is a little bit with too much floor, cropped without the left part and with less of the floor? --LudwigSebastianMicheler (talk) 23:29, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm glad you've found them useful! I have to be honest, I didn't notice that reflection! Mike Peel (talk) 23:37, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #297

WikiData question

What happens to the WD QID when a WP page gets moved - does the the WD QID follow the WP page to its new name or no?

The reason I ask is that it will determine my response at the bottom of Template talk:Taxonbar#Specifying the from/from1 parameter (which we might need a WD expert to look at...). If the QID follows the WP page, then the |from1= parameter in question is less useful/not needed. If the QID does not follow the WP page, then |from1= is useful/possibly required for long-term stability. Thanks.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  21:08, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

@Tom.Reding: QIDs are designed to be as stable as possible (this is part of why they are numerical IDs, not names). So when a Wikipedia article is renamed, the QID remains the same, and it's just the sitelink that is updated (e.g., [2]). They *can* change if, for example, two topics were mixed together and are separated out into two different QIDs, or if two duplicates are merged together (in which case the lower number QID is normally kept, and the other is turned into a redirect, e.g., [3]/[4]). It's best *not* to specify a QID if you can, e.g. if you're using content on the same page that the QID is linked to, but it's normally fine to use it to fetch info from other QIDs if needed (although not too many times, as these have a performance overhead). Hope that helps? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:06, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, that does help, and I'm tempted to say that the |from1= parameter I was referring to isn't needed. Just to be sure though, and because the taxonomy area of WP isn't as nice & neat as my example, could I get your thoughts on the above-linked discussion, particularly Peter coxhead's example starting at "Ok, so consider the follow."?   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  20:21, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Sure, the QID doesn't change, but any editor can change at Wikidata the enwiki article that the QID links to, and we have no control over the change, which won't even show up to editors who have the enwiki article on their watchlist. Peter coxhead (talk) 22:03, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
@Peter coxhead: Do you have "Preferences" -> "Watchlist" -> "Show Wikidata edits in your watchlist" turned on? I just tried unlinking Mark III (radio telescope) and adding it back, and in my watchlist I can see an edit with the message "This page has been unlinked from Wikidata item. Language links removed." followed by "A Wikidata item has been linked to this page.". Here's a screenshot:
 
As for "we have no control over the change" - your user account works on Wikidata as well... ;-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:10, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: sure, if an editor sets the preference, then a change to the direct link shows up, but how many editors have this set? My watchlist is already far too long. Also you have to watch the Wikidata entry itself to see other relevant changes that show up in the taxonbar or the left margin of an article. As for no control, it's not a matter of individual edits, but the whole way Wikidata is set up and the stance it takes on taxonomy. Anyway, enough on this matter from me. Peter coxhead (talk) 21:01, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
@Peter coxhead: If it's a big concern, then we could always start an RfC to enable that preference by default. But then, yes, your watchlist would become longer - you can't have both things simultaneously! The other relevant changes should also appear in the watchlist in the same way... I don't understand your point about 'the whole way Wikidata is set up', and in "the stance it takes on taxonomy" I'm assuming "it" means "the editors there" - that'll only change through discussion with those editors, the same way as it works here. ;-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:10, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
The watchlist thing is getting away from the issue though, or at best it's an unrobust/uncomfortable solution. Yes, at some level, we have to trust other editors, and most editors are ok with that when changes are made internally to en.wiki, but we lose some confidence when relying on activities behind the relatively opaque curtain at WD. Adding the |from1= parameter would basically serve as a starting point for the 'history' of each page's WD QID assignment, visible/checkable to/by a much broader audience (en.wiki) than WD (i.e. is it different from the current QID? what changed? oh let me find out, etc.). You're right about bringing it up to the WD taxonomy people - just need to figure out where that is... I tried searching a bit but am just lost.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  04:35, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
@Tom.Reding: Try d:Wikidata:WikiProject Taxonomy. @Pigsonthewing: any other suggestions for where taxonomy discussion is happening on Wikidata? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:26, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Belated reply sorry (I was travelling last week). taxonomy crops up on Wikdata's 'Project Chat' (as they call their equivalent of our Village Pumps) from time to time. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:45, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

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  • An RfC has closed with a consensus that candidates at WP:RFA must disclose whether they have ever edited for pay and that administrators may never use administrative tools as part of any paid editing activity, except when they are acting as a Wikipedian-in-Residence or when the payment is made by the Wikimedia Foundation or an affiliate of the WMF.
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  • A tag will now be automatically applied to edits that blank a page, turn a page into a redirect, remove/replace almost all content in a page, undo an edit, or rollback an edit. These edits were previously denoted solely by automatic edit summaries.

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The Signpost: 5 February 2018

Wikidata weekly summary #298