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I reverted your changes to the article on the Democratic Party. Please see the talk page tab for that article to join in on the discussion about what should be included regarding the party's position. You can find it here: Talk:Democratic_Party_(United_States) Orville1974 (talk) 19:21, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! I submitted it on the Democratic Party talk page, if you want to check it out.MarvellingLiked (talk) 19:37, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

May 2019 Disruptive editing and multiple policy violationsEdit

  Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, you may be blocked from editing. Jeppiz (talk) 21:32, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

  Your recent bold edit has been reverted. Per the bold, revert, discuss cycle, after a bold edit is reverted, the status quo should remain while a discussion is started instead of edit-warring, and it should be resolved before reinstating the edit, after a needed consensus is formed to keep it. Jeppiz (talk) 21:34, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

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Disruptive editing May 2019Edit

  Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Equality Act (United States). Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. You must provide rationale on the talk pages before removing numerous properly cited sentences and their references. There are multiple editors working on this article. Changing the number of supporting organizations from 515 to 330 and removing the American Pediatrics Association from the list of organizations, that was added at the request of another user above, is also disruptive.Dig deeper talk 00:54, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

May 2019Edit

Your recent editing history at Democratic Party (United States) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Yet the remainder of your edits made after this were done without an edit summary. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:12, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

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What consensus?Edit

[1] Could you please provide a link to the consensus you reference in this edit? ~Awilley (talk) 13:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Just noting that I do expect a response here...either a pointer to the consensus you referenced, or an apology for the deceptive edit summary. If you choose not to respond (perhaps hoping I'll go away and forget about it) I will simply block your account from editing as someone who can't be trusted with editing privileges. ~Awilley (talk) 13:52, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm responding. Give me a second. MarvellingLiked (talk) 13:55, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
The discussion is here. The large majority of the objections to inclusion of it in the lead involved the allegations being unproven or inconsistent, which are not barriers to inclusion under Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. MelanieN was the notable objector to including it, weakly opposing it being added under a previous RFC discussion. But I believe it meets the criteria for Wikipedia:Deletion_guidelines_for_administrators#Rough_consensus and Wikipedia:Closing_discussions#How_to_determine_the_outcome. I'm fine with someone from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure to address it. I'm fine with creating a new discussion if you want. But that is what I referring to in the edit summary. I kept in mind "The desired standard is rough consensus, not perfect consensus" and "judge the consensus of the community, after discarding irrelevant arguments: those that flatly contradict established policy, those based on personal opinion only, those that are logically fallacious, and those that show no understanding of the matter of issue". It could perhaps be considered borderline... but I think it makes it. MarvellingLiked (talk) 14:06, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing to the discussion, and sorry for not assuming better faith. I got very concerned when I looked at the talk page and couldn't find a relevant discussion. Looking at the archived discussion (only had a chance to skim it) I would think that it would merit a formal close. As a side note I would be careful about discounting any objection of MelanieN who is basically the gold-standard for non-partisan, policy-based editing. I can restore the discussion from the archives and request a formal close if you would like. ~Awilley (talk) 14:41, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Reading a bit deeper into the votes it looks like some people were voting conditional "includes" for shorter alternate proposals by R2 and soibangla, while others (eg TFD) were opposing inclusion of the original proposal on the basis of tone, like including the word "rape", which was excluded in R2's proposal. A second vote or RfC with a toned-down proposal might produce a cleaner result by removing the jumble of conditional supports and opposes. ~Awilley (talk) 15:07, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
I'm willing to have an administrator address it. Anything with Trump is bound to be heavily controversial, so even developing a rough consensus is bound to be a near-miracle. I'm willing to have a second vote, or, ping an administrator for closure. It's up to you. And no worries about the false assumption! :) MarvellingLiked (talk) 16:03, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
It's not really up to me. As an admin active in the topic area I try to avoid making specific proposals on content. I suggested starting a second vote with a more modest proposal based on my reading of the archived thread, and generally speaking I think more neutral wordings that take account of people's objections are better for the encyclopedia than contentious wordings that are forced into an article by one "side", but it's not my job to choose the direction this goes. ~Awilley (talk) 17:57, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Discretionary Sanction NotificationEdit

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You have shown interest in post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

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EvergreenFir (talk) 05:55, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

  • What are edits like this one supposed to do? "Elite"--it sounds like you're inserting some QAnon kind of meme into a biographical article. Please refrain. Drmies (talk) 21:35, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
    • By elites, I wasn't referring to the discarded notion of the QAnon conspiracy theory, but rather, general influential people in society. Multiple news organizations have described it in this way. (See here, here, here, here, etc.) The term "elite" and "powerful men" have both been used by the accusers and news outlets on whom they were allegedly trafficked by. Is there another term that you would be okay with using? Since Epstein's notoriority is highly related to this. (Instead of him, say, being a random street pimp) MarvellingLiked (talk)
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      • That first article only uses the phrase "elite world" once. That's too loose for an encyclopedia. I am not sure there is a single term that accurately describes his acquaintances, and using one single term is likely a mischaracterization we should avoid. Drmies (talk) 18:08, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

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