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Selfstudier (talk) 17:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

1R breach at UNRWA October 7 controversy

Diff1 16:12, 30 January 2024 Diff2 10:38, 31 January 2024

Kindly undo, thank you. Selfstudier (talk) 15:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I beg your pardon. I didn't realise that it applies to the pages I myself have created. I'll undo the edit. ManOnTheMoon92 (talk) 08:21, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I see that having self reverted, you have now once again removed the material from the lead claiming that it is undue and that there are different "perspectives". This kind of delayed edit warring is frowned upon. I have restored it until such time as you can explain in talk why the material is undue and what these other perspectives are exactly. Selfstudier (talk) 14:22, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

I've explained my reasoning for that. Is there an issue with it, in terms of policy or otherwise? As I understand it, the norm is to be bold, revert, discuss (BRD). You made a bold edit, I reverted it (providing explanations), so you should convince why it should be added to the article's introduction. I fail to see how this constitutes an edit war. The person persistently adding previously reverted content is the one engaging in edit warring. Let's focus on constructive dialogue and consensus-building rather than escalating tensions over content disputes. ManOnTheMoon92 (talk) 14:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

By the way, I notice you're advising others to address content disputes on the appropriate talk pages. So, could you please clarify why you're contacting me here instead of there, especially since we're discussing content-related issues? I'm just trying to understand the norms here. Thanks. ManOnTheMoon92 (talk) 14:42, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

You have first reverted by way of fixing the 1R breach and then having restored the offending edit, have removed it again. The reason I am contacting you on your talk page, I will repeat, is that kind of delayed edit warring is frowned upon.

As for the content itself, I suggest you take up my invitation to discuss it on the article talk page. Selfstudier (talk) 15:07, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Let me ask, why didn't you start a discussion after my second revert and instead restored your preferred version? Wouldn't that also qualify as engaging in edit warring? ManOnTheMoon92 (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Because it was a reintroduction of a 1R breach. That doesn't mean you just get to take it back out again as soon as the 24 hours ticks by, especially not without a clear explanation of the reasons.

When reverting per Diff1 above you said "shouldn't appear in the article's intro. Perhaps it could be incorporated into one of the sections, in the right framing and context" so I improved the material, included it into the body and the lead and then in Diff 2 you claimed "Seems undue here". Now you are claiming "Undue. Various perspectives exist on this matter" It is very hard to avoid the impression that this is just WP:IDONTLIKEIT editing.

What I am looking for is a clear explanation of why you think the reaction of the number one UNRWA donor is undue or why there might be various perspectives about that. Just saying undue and doing some handwaving isn't going to cut it. Selfstudier (talk) 15:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Being new here, I genuinely appreciate constructive feedback and guidance, but I must admit, I'm finding the tone of our discussion a tad too aggressive. I believe that maintaining a respectful exchange is a must. With that in mind, I'm hopeful that we can collaborate effectively to reach a resolution. ManOnTheMoon92 (talk) 15:35, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

I will start a discussion on the article talk page. Selfstudier (talk) 15:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I have recently returned from a brief period of leave and was quite taken aback to discover that I have been accused of engaging in sockpuppetry—a term, I must confess, that was unfamiliar to me until now. I'm seeking clarity on this matter and would appreciate any information available.

After looking into Tombah's contributions, it's clear our interests in the Arab-Israeli conflict intersect, which I can see might have caused the confusion. However, our expertise diverges significantly beyond this. It appears that Tombah may have been more interested in ancient history, an area I'm less versed in. My contributions lean towards political science, terrorism, politics, economics and culture of the Middle East, especially Lebanon, and rock music.

Discussions on Rajoub's wall also imply Tombah is based in Israel, whereas my life is centred in the UK. Additionally, I noticed Tombah is fluent in Hebrew, a language I do not speak.

Given these differences, the sockpuppetry claim seems to be a mix-up. I'm happy to provide more details in a private setting if needed. Thank you for helping me resolve this confusion.

Decline reason:

This is a checkuser block, meaning that private technical evidence supports it; it's not just about behavior. You'll need to tell why it might appear technically that you are associated with this user if you are not. If you need a private setting to do this, you may use WP:UTRS to make a private unblock request. 331dot (talk) 10:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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I sent them to the check users, for they are the wiseist of us all.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:11, 19 February 2024 (UTC)