Larry laptop

Don't bother leaving a message, I'm done this was the straw that broke the camels back, a moment of clarity - I feel I've been wasting my time here. Now it could be the "keepers" are right and it's not a cruft-filled games guide but I just don't see it - that means I'm too far out of whack with the rest of the community for carry on, this is a waste of my time. Let me just quote someone - WikiProjects on fictional universes are more apt to defend articles than WikiProjects on aspects of the real one. I would not expect Wikipedia:WikiProject Science to defend a biography of a non-notable scientist just because it was on a scienctist and therefore related to "their" subject. But I've never seen a fiction WikiProject say "this is too much detail" or "this is effectively original research".

I really think there are two wikipedias developing here - there is the factual wikipedia that deals with living people, arts, the sciences and the humanities. I think by and large this side of wikipedia (let's call it factopedia) works well, people discuss and argue but they generally try and move forward in an objective manner. Then there is the fictional side (let's call it cruftopedia) - a ugly cruft filled side - where no article is too long to extend, no subject too minor to have it's own separate article, no game item too small to have pages of lists created for it. I actually spent most of my time editing cruftopedia but it's just depressing for someone who wants to develop wikipedia as a well-sourced general reader's encylopedia, which has strong, to the point, articles.

Take the crufopedia article I've linked above - the standard lines have alright appeared "it's notable" - yeah every pair of booties a fictional character wore is notable and suitable for a general reader's encylopedia. The main weapon of cruftopedia is the this shouldn't be afd'd this should be cleaned up - in theory with many articles (not with that one) they are right, in practice they are wrong. I've followed a number of AFDs and clean-up notices on cruftopedia and the pattern is always the same "Clean-up, we'll clean it up!" and of course it never happens, no clean-up is attempted. So of course when a tool does not work, you have to escalate to the next tool, by either proding an article or AFDing. I think most factopedia editors already know before they AFD an article that the special interest groups on cruftopedia will never allow their precious cruft to be removed - it has to grow and grow and grow. However with AFD, there is at least a chance they will be forced into a clean-up of an article.

So I wish you all the best - hell I might just get a new identity and become a full-time cruftapedian myself - I might start with list of costumes that the wasp worn once in the avengers during the 1969-1980 period - something with a lot of value to the general reader. --Larry laptop 10:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter

The March 2007 issue of the Biography WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Mocko13 22:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou

Thanks. Have to say, they wilfully misquoted me in places, but they did so in a nice way, so I don't really mind. :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 16:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

The WikiProject Biography Newsletter: Issue II - April 2007

The April 2007 issue of the WikiProject Biography newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you BetacommandBot 18:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Name Change

I noticed that you changed your name to Larry laptop. How do you change your name without having to delete your account? Magic? How do I change my name? Please help. Thanks. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 04:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography Newsletter 5

The Biography WikiProject Newsletter Volume IV, no. 4 - September 2007
Project News The three-month long Summer Assessment Drive, organized by Psychless, was a huge success! It ran from June 1 – September 1, and reduced the backlog of unassessed articles from 113,385 to 56,237. In all, over 100,000 articles were assessed. Over 60 people contributed in some way. A barnstar has been created for exceptional work on Wikipedia biographies and for assisting the project. The Biography Barnstar is listed with the other WikiProject awards and can be awarded easily with a template. See the template page for more details. Member News Congratulations to the editors who worked on the newest featured biographies: Augustus; William Shakespeare; Adriaen van der Donck; Alfred Russel Wallace; Alison Krauss; Anne Frank; Anne of Denmark; Asser; Bart King; Bill O'Reilly; Bobby Robson; Bradley Joseph; CM Punk; Ceawlin of Wessex; Colley Cibber; Cædwalla of Wessex; Dominik Hašek; Elizabeth Needham; Frank Macfarlane Burnet; Georg Cantor; Gregory of Nazianzus; Gunnhild Mother of Kings; Gwen Stefani; Hannah Primrose, Countess of Rosebery; Harriet Arbuthnot; Harry S. Truman; Henry, Bishop of Uppsala; Héctor Lavoe; Ine of Wessex; Ion Heliade Rădulescu; Jack Sheppard; Jackie Chan; Jay Chou; John Martin Scripps; John Mayer; Joseph Francis Shea; Joshua A. Norton; Kate Bush; Kazi Nazrul Islam; Kevin Pietersen; Martin Brodeur; Mary Martha Sherwood; Mary of Teck; Maximus the Confessor; Miranda Otto; Muhammad Ali Jinnah; P. K. van der Byl; Penda of Mercia; Pham Ngoc Thao; Rabindranath Tagore; Ramón Emeterio Betances; Red Barn Murder; Richard Hakluyt; Richard Hawes; Robert Garran; Roman Vishniac; Ronald Niel Stuart; Ronald Reagan; Roy Welensky; Rudolph Cartier; Samuel Adams; Samuel Beckett; Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough; Sarah Trimmer; Sargon of Akkad; Shen Kuo; Sophie Blanchard; Stereolab; Sydney Newman; Sylvanus Morley; Tim Duncan; Timeline of Mary Wollstonecraft; Uncle Tupelo; Waisale Serevi; Wallis, Duchess of Windsor; Walter Model; William Bruce; William Goebel; Yagan; Zhou Tong; Æthelbald of Mercia; Æthelbald of Mercia New Members Congratulations to our 225 new members	From the Editors The newsletter is back! Many things have gone on during the past few months, but many things have not. While the assessment drive helped revitalize the assessment department of the project, many other departments have received no attention. Most notably: peer review and our "workgroups". A day long IRC meeting has been planned for October 13th, with the major focus being which areas of the project are "dead", what should our goals be as a project, and how to "revive" the dead areas of our project. Contribute to the discussion on the the new channel (see below) We decided to deliver this newsletter to all project members this month but only those with their names down here will get it delivered in the future. This is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue. Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned or post news on the next issue's talk page New irc channel Lastly, a new WikiProject Biography channel has been set up on the freenode network: #wikipedia-en-bio Our thanks to Phoenix 15 for setting it up. Contributors to this Issue Psychless (talk · contribs) Phoenix 15 (talk · contribs)
Complete To Do List Write an article Expand an article about: a person an actor an animator an artist a bishop a businessperson a diplomat an educator an engineer a lawyer a military person a musician a photographer a saint a politician a scientist a sportsperson a writer Improve an article by: adding references adding categories Review an article Romano Volta • Suzanne Carrell • Mullá Husayn • John Gilchrist (linguist) • Thomas Brattle • Answer requests for comments Work on the Portal Portal:Biography Assess an article Assessment requests Unassessed articles Assessment Progress Biography articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Core Other ??? Total FA 34 1,592 1,626 FL 192 192 A 1 104 105 GA 41 8,083 8,124 B 92 37,308 37,400 C 37 159,780 159,817 Start 3 736,025 736,028 Stub 1 1,031,591 1 1,031,593 List 7,483 7,483 Category 2 210,322 210,324 Disambig 8,072 8,072 File 29,522 29,522 Project 1 197 198 Redirect 3 42,015 42,018 Template 12,678 12,678 NA 238 238 Assessed 215 2,285,202 1 2,285,418 Unassessed 32,552 32,552 Total 215 2,317,754 1 2,317,970 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 10,638,416 Ω = 5.39
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Respect Thread Conversions

I'm looking for folks to help convert Respect Threads to wiki formatting on Project Fanboy: WikiFans. Respect Threads, showcase scans of feats performed by comic book characters and have gained an audience on several comic book message boards. A few other wiki editors and myself are trying to convert them from the unprofessional look of a bunch of posts on a message board to the formatting common with WikiMedia wiki's. To view an example of what we're doing, here is a link to Respect Silver Surfer.

I was wondering if you might have time to contribute your comic book knowledge and/or scans of comic book characters performing feats, and help us out with our Respect Articles project?Millennium Cowboy (talk) 02:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

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You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:06, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:32, 23 November 2015 (UTC)