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Speedy deletion of Lady Sybilla

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AfD nomination of Russet Noon

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Request reason:

I would like a chance to provide neutral documentation about the Russet Noon controversy. I will be more than happy to edit any part of the article that might come off as promotional, but I also know that I am entitled to provide factual information about the novel. Please allow me a chance to become better acquainted with Wikipedia standards. I assure you I have absolutely no intention of using Wikipedia as a promotional tool. I just want a chance to provide documented evidence about the Russet Noon case.

Decline reason:

Neither this request nor discussion below have addressed the username issue. — Daniel Case (talk) 12:24, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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First, can you confirm whether you are in fact the same Lady Sybilla as the author of Russet Noon (where the concerns are a conflict of interest) or are you not (where it's lesser concern about your name). I'm talking with the admin who blocked you but generally the relevant standard for sources is at WP:RS (in particular, blog are NOT reliable enough). The other relevant standard is for not yet published books. If you can show that there is significant independent reliable sources concerning the book, your article may survive. Things like "News, blogs, articles and comments about the release of this already controversial book can be found just by conducting a Google search on the book's title or the author's name" aren't helpful so look for and describe the specific news you can find. However, it would be better, even if it does, for you not to edit the article directly and instead to use the talk page. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Dear Ricky81682:

I will be more than happy to compile quotations from various mainstream sites related to Twilight which have been documenting this controversy from the start. I will need a few days to do so, however, because it's a time consuming task, so all I ask is that you hang the article until I can put together a more neutral version of this controversy.

And yes, I am the same Lady Sybilla as the author. I can prove this by acknowledging so on the Russet Noon official website, but I'd like to know if that will be enough proof. Something else I can do is privately give you the ISBN number that I had originally purchased for Russet Noon. I can also provide proof my myidentifiers.com that this registration was withdrawn due to copyright issues brought up by the fandom community. I understand that it's best for me not to edit the article any further. However, how you can you get neutral facts about this book if you only allow access to editors that are basing everything on the gossip and hearsay that is going around online?

Once again, I'd like to reiterate that the book is being offered for free to public libraries and any interested parties who would like to own it as a collectors item. Due to the accusations of copyright infringement, Russet Noon will not be sold for money ever again. However, the impact it has had on the artistic community, not only the Twilight fandom, merits its inclusion in Wikipedia. Ladysybilla (talk) 03:24, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

You appear to be unwilling to stop editing the article about your book- but you were blocked because that was the only way to get you to stop. You now want to be unblocked in order to show that your book really is notable. I'm willing to acknowledge that possibility; it would help if you could substantiate that notability by pointing me toward two or three newspaper or magazine articles about your book. Not press releases or forum discussions, but articles in real newspapers, or science fiction or publishing magazines. The publication of a work of fan fiction without the original author's permission would definitely attract the attention of the media; as the author, you're in a position to know what newspapers and magazines have been interviewing you, and in what publications we can find articles about it. You can put the links here, and it will do much to strengthen your case for unblocking. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 02:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

• • Dear FisherQueen:

I apologize if I appear to be "unwilling to stop editing the article." I'm just trying to provide balanced information about it, since I feel that the editors trying to delete it haven't done the necessary research to verify the extent to which this controversy has impacted the online artistic community. But if you guys decide I shouldn't edit it, it's fine. All I ask is that whoever edits or moderates it actually does so without bastardizing it (please notice Frogwidget's vandalism-style modifications to it, especially the link she added to the external links list). That's all I ask to be allowed to do in reference to the Russet Noon article. As for my editing privileges, my Wikipedia editor account has been in good standing for many years now, so I don't deserve to be blocked. I am willing to abide by Wikipedia's regulations. As for the evidence you request, I would like to emphasize that I'm not claiming the book has attracted mainstream media attention yet. I haven't received any kind of legal communications on the part of Stephenie Meyer or her reps, which, in turn, leads me to believe that they don't have a problem with me publishing this novel as long as I do so for free. The reason I'm arguing that the Russet Noon article warrants inclusion in Wikipedia is because of the massive controversy it has spawned on the net. There are sites exclusively devoted to documenting updates on Russet Noon, and many fans have openly commented that they want to read the novel no matter what. The Russet Noon phenomenon is all over the net and, if given a reasonable amount of time to do so, I can provide evidence of it. Ladysybilla (talk) 03:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

There's no reason you can't start now with links of the type FisherQueen has asked for. Post links here. Many of us have looked for evidence in all the typical places but overall, if the book hasn't received mainstream media attention yet, then it doesn't belong here. This is for things that are already notable and known to the mainstream, not for things that could become notable and known. The copyright concerns (and what's going on with Meyer) are ultimately your issue, not any of ours. We just want some indication that this is actually in the mainstream, and there is information that can be verified in a manner that's consistent with the rest of the encyclopedia. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Also note that controversies just on the net is not enough. See the standard for reliable sources and if there hasn't been mainstream media attention yet, it's too early to belong here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

• • Fair enough, Ricky. I totally understand your point, and, yes, you are right. It is way too early for this book to have a Wikipedia page. Go ahead and delete the article. I won't try to appeal this issue any further. However, if you can be so kind as to restore my editing privileges, I would really appreciate it. When the book comes out, I'll request for the article to be created.

Ladysybilla (talk) 05:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I've left a comment for User:Nja247 since he was the one who blocked, and I imagine he'll respond in a few hours his time. Sorry about the delay but as a general rule, we don't go around countering each other without at least some discussion. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

• • Thanks, I appreciate that. Please let me know what the final decision is.

Ladysybilla (talk) 05:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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Peter David

Thanks. I've been thinking of adding his blog entries about the Russet Noon/Potato Noon thing to his article, so I'll just do that now. However, the link you provided is to a list of search results on Google News, rather than a press release by Google News itself. Clicking on the first two results brings me to two opinion pieces on something called PRLog that appear to have been written by you or your fans. It says at the bottom that they were issued by "AV Paranormal". Who are PRLog and AV Paranormal?

And btw, welcome to Wikipedia! Just so you know, new posts and sections on Talk Pages go at the bottom. Thanks again. :-) Nightscream (talk) 03:35, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your April 26 message on my Talk Page, I'm not sure which article you were referring to that I write, but I indeed used David's blog entries on the Russet Moon matter as sources for the statement regarding his views on copyright infringement in the Public Persona section of his article. However, articles must summarize the most salient aspects of their subjects, rather than list every public matter in which they've participated, and I don't know that the Russet Noon/Potato Moon matter is noteworthy enough to mention in detail. Most of his public conflicts with others that are mentioned in that same section, after all, are not mentioned in great detail. Moreover, I'm not sure how opinion pieces on independent publishing sites that refer to him as a "right wing conservative" or a President Bush-type really constitutes another "side of the story", since this really has nothing to do with his views on copyright, and seems particularly odd when you consider that he's a liberal who criticized Bush many times (yet another thing heavily referenced in that section). I'm also not clear on how referring to his group parody novel as an "Inquisition" is worthy of mention, when there's really nothing being done with that novel that's much different than what you did with Russet Noon. It is, after all, just a parody. I wasn't even familiar with the Google matter or Author Shit List matter, and in investigating them, it does not appear that there are any sources to support those things that would be considered reliable by WP.

As for the External links matter, again, I don't think the matter is noteworthy enough that it bears such prominent mention in an EL section, especially since, as aforementioned, I already included it in the Public persona section. But if you have any other questions or suggestions, or any need any other tips on editing, just let me know. Thanks again. :-) Nightscream (talk) 01:05, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure you love those characters very much, and I hope writing the novel was rewarding, and may lead to fruitful future endeavors. But just so you know, copyright infringement does not require that you make money off the property that you're using. Legally, any time you use a copyrighted character or property without the permission of the owner (unless it's done for purposes of parody, or under a claim of Fair Use for journalistic purposes), it's copyright infringement. I don't know what accusations are being made by which sites, but that's the law. In any event, good luck to you. :-) Nightscream (talk) 22:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, no problem, thanks. As for the copyright issue, Stephenie Meyer does allow her fans to write fanfics, so if I get sued for giving away a fanfic novel, all the other Twilight fans that publish their fanfics online would also get sued for violation of copyright laws. All in all, I believe that, as long as I don't make money off it, SM and her people won't have a problem with it. Thanks again and take care.

Ladysybilla (talk) 20:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Potato Moon

Thanks for your message. It seems to me that the entry has all the sourcing it needs at the moment, but of course if you would like the entry to read differently, you are always free to edit it; be assured that I have no feelings of ownership about it. Enjoy! IceCreamEmpress (talk) 20:16, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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Hello, Ladysybilla. You have new messages at Ged UK's talk page.
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