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I've noticed your making good contributions to the Buzz Feiten article, and want to encourage you to keep working! One thing I suggest you do is to spend some time looking for reliable sources, because the article is lacking in that regard. It is particularly important because the article is about a living person, although I haven't yet seen much controversial content about Buzz Feiten. Typically I look for interviews in well-known guitar magazines, or for instance details in reviews of instruments or when interviewing other people (e.g., a review would describe the BFTS in more detail). Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 15:02, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Per Plurality (voting), "if 100 votes were cast, including 45 for Candidate A, 30 for Candidate B and 25 for Candidate C, then Candidate A received a plurality of votes but not a majority." Candidate B got less than a plurality, right? Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:48, 3 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hello. Thanks for editing, and for caring about the truth. A plurality voting system allows a candidate to win with less than a majority of the popular vote. But so does our electoral college system. Your example (above) gives vote totals for three candidates. With no electoral college system, but under a plurality voting formula, Candidate A would win. But if a majority vote were required to win, then there would be run-off election between candidates A and B, both of whom could be said to have garnered pluralities of the total vote. So no, Candidate B did not receive less than a plurality ... they merely received less than Candidate A.

After 50 years' activity in politics, with an MBA and good mathematical abilities, I would offer this approximate definition of 'plurality': "A percentage of total votes received which, while large, is less than a majority." Depending on the type of system in which the votes are cast, a plurality of votes cast may or may not result in a victory.

Please reconsider. That would mean that if 99 people are running for a particular office, then there will be one winner and 98 people will each get a plurality? That cannot be right. Here is a dictionary definition:

a number of votes cast for a candidate in a contest of more than two candidates that is greater than the number cast for any other candidate but not more than half the total votes cast

According to this definition (and putting aside the possibility of a tie), only one person can win a plurality. In the 2016 election, the person who won a plurality (according to this dictionary definition) was Hillary Clinton. Right? So, I would appreciate if you would please undo this edit of yours, and put it back the way it was. Your edit summary said, "it is not correct that Trump didn't obtain a plurality of the popular vote. He did." Not according to the dictionary definition provided above, because he did not get a greater number than the number cast for Clinton. Anythingyouwant (talk) 03:41, 4 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thank you very much for your response. I stand by my edit, and my definition, which I believe is a practical one. Please know that there is 'plurality voting', and there is a definition of 'plurality' which has nothing to do with voting, but usually refers to human beings. What I have offered is a mathematical definition. In any case, as regards the article, the point, I believe, is moot, as the last edit of the passage now reads: "...and the fifth to have won a presidential election while receiving a smaller share of the popular vote than his opponent." [which is also correct.] By my definition, both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump received pluralities of the popular vote, as neither received an absolute majority. In an hypothetical race where there were five candidates, let's say Candidates A and B received 35% and 34% of the votes, and the remaining three candidates received much lower numbers for each, say 11%, 12%, and 8%. In this case an accurate description might refer to A and B as having received numerical pluralities. In a 'plurality voting' system, Candidate A wins, as they received the largest number of votes, which is all that is required to win under that system. In a majority voting system, there will be a runoff. If this were, hypothetically, a US Federal election for president or vice president, Candidate A will be recorded as having won the popular vote, though not by a majority. If no candidate received a majority of *electoral* votes, the Electoral College would not declare a winner, and the House of Representatives would make a choice between candidates A and B. Thank you again for your thoughts! -- John Wilmerding, Brattleboro, Vermont USA

Regarding what you say is "my definition", it may be a better definition than the standard applicable dictionary definition, but we must assume that readers will be using the latter, because they will be unaware of your definition. See what I mean? Anythingyouwant (talk) 03:35, 5 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

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