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re: wrongtitle

It's not really all that useful, and you could consider the removal of the excessive verbiage a cleanup :) --Joy [shallot] 23:06, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The analogy is okay, but it's flawed due to the context - we're not talking about code here, we're talking about organizing information in an encyclopedia entry. Small diacritical marks in the spelling of a name are not information that needs to be in front of everything else in the article - the most important thing about a person is what they did and why they may matter to the reader, now the fact that we can't spell their name exactly right. --Joy [shallot] 11:17, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

VSL "minor edit"

hi GregorB,

i would suggest that you might not check the "This is a minor edit" box when you are adding content to an article. i think "minor edits" are for correcting spelling, grammar, and typographical errors. some Wikipedians have an option on their Watchlist to not display minor edits (because they only want to know if there is a substantive change of content) and only registered wikipedians can check that box when they edit, so there's a little matter of trust there.

also, i might recommend checking out both the Duff and Duff, Okun, & Veneziano papers. i think there is a much more fundamental reason for why a change in $c\$, $\hbar \$, $G\$, and $\epsilon _{0}\$, is not detectable by us mortals. a change in any dimensionful quantity, in and of itself, is not detectable except measured against another like dimensioned quantity.

best regards, r b-j 00:22, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi Rbj,

As far as I can tell, I've made two edits to the VSL article, both of them fairly minor, limited to spelling and formatting. I don't remember having changed (let alone added) the content, so I believe this is some kind of misunderstanding... GregorB 07:47, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

(Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rbj")

okay, according to the diff function in the article history, it appeared that you added an entire section of content. so i did misunderstand, but i wonder how come it looks like that. r b-j 00:35, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Steve Yeager

Could you reconsider your delete vote? I've rewritten the article. RickK 05:22, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

As of 2005

I have a question about your recent edit of List of particles. Is there a general wikipedia policy of adding the words "as of 2005" to statements that are currently true, but could change? It seems a bit silly, in this case, because if any of the hypothetical particles were discovered, it would be big news and updated extremely quickly. -- SCZenz 21:16, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

It's even sillier in String Theory, as it seems to imply it's possible that it might be verified next year. The theoretical physicists I know all seem to be in agreement that testing a new theory of physics to the point where it's demonstrably string theory simply cannot be done in the forseeable future. But I guess it's not wrong... ;)

Thanks!

Thanks for your edits to Heim theory! I was delighted to see someone new come by and make a few edits. May I ask how you came across that page? --HappyCamper 22:17, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

kohlberg

why did you remove the images to this article?

JoeSmack (talk) 03:17, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Was the Cetina-Una line the historic border of Croats and Serbs in the Early Medieval Ages? HolyRomanEmperor 16:30, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Oblique projection

Hi GregorB. Since you added the context tag to Oblique projection, you seem like the right person to ask whether the article has enough context now for that tag's removal. Does it still need more context or do you think it's OK now? The Rod 17:13, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

lowercase template

GregorB, I appreciate your switching of the Counter-Strike map articles (e.g. cs_italy) to the lowercase template, but lowercase is not the only problem with the title, nor is it the main one (They also require underscores). For now I'm going to revert them back to wrongtitle. Thanks. Varco 20:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Dinamo

Ajde moj lipi GregorB, objasni ti meni kako su se grbovi HAŠK-a i Građanskoga našli na slici "Dinamovih grbova"??? i po ćemu je taj isti Dinamo osnovan 1911. godine. Pretpostavljam da si dinamovac ali ipak pisat i stavljat ovakve gluposti je malo previše: 1. nemate nikakve veze sa HAŠK-om osim stadiona, a nasljednik HAŠK-a je HAK Mladost (znači već si pokrao dva kluba) 2. nikakve veze sa Građanskim osim boje dresa i UKRADENOG grba 1971. godine (pokrao si i treći klub) 3. 1945. godine Građanski se raspada i 90% igraća se seli u (vama na diku i ponos) FK Partizan Beograd 4. iti malo bolji poznavatelj nogometa zna da se Dinamo osnovao 1945. godine kao Svesportsko društvo komunalnih poduzeća Dinamo Zagreb, A NOGOMETNA SEKCIJA SE IZDVOILA IZ DRUŠTVA 1950!!! Da zakljućim: bolje promjeni ove gluposti jer i sam znaš da nisu istinite, lijepo je voljeti svoj klub ali se zato ne mora kititi tuđim perjem, jer vi niste nasljednik ni HAŠK-a a bogami ni Građanskog.

Odgovorit ću ovdje jer ne znam gdje bih... Ovako: cijelu priču s HAŠK-om i Građanskim, uključujući i grbove, nisam tamo stavio ja, pa ova cijela priča ide krivoj osobi. Nisam nogometni navijač. Koliko se sjećam, moje izmjene tamo bile su kozmetičke.

Sve što si rekao ovdje mogao si napisati u samom članku ili na talk pageu. Ovo je Wikipedia, barem ovdje se to može. Savjetujem ti da probaš, iako sumnjam da ćeš imati uspjeha, budući da mi se npr. shvaćanje da je Partizan nekakav "nasljednik" HAŠK-a i Građanskog čini potpuno bizarno. GregorB 19:46, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikified Mathur, Kayastha

I have attempted to wikify the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathur%2C_Kayastha page . . . can you please check it to see if I have done this correctly?

ResKnife

I noticed you contributed a lot to the article on ResKnife. You might like to know thee's a new version (see VersionTracker URL). — Nicholas (reply) @ 04:57, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Request for expansion

I failed to find any information on what Life-critical system should be expanded with. Could you please state something on the talk page or in Wikipedia:Requests_for_expansion#October? If a list of "stuff" is somewhere, we can know when to remove the request for expansion. --Nordby73 23:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining! Your input was appreciated. I'll see if I'm able to contribute in some the areas you want more information on (when I get time). --Nordby73 12:21, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

AFD

Hi.I Hope im not bothering you, i saw your vote on a AFD, and i would appreicate your vote in this two articles as well:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Citizens' Commission on 9-11
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Problem Reaction Solution

Thanks, and peace :) --Striver 20:10, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for voting and your comment! May i ask you what made you undesicive regarding Problem Reaction Solution? My arguments are that it gives 25 000 Google hits and is used as a distinct term for a distinct tactic by people holding a specific view. What arguements did you reagard are valid for not having it? Thanks again, and peace. --Striver 01:54, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

2006 IAAF World Indoor Championships

Here we go! What format will we use for the medal winners tables? Punkmorten 21:57, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Shall we also use write-ups/summaries? Punkmorten 23:56, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Get involved in social nudity naming convention debates!

Hi GregorB,

I'd like to invite you to get involved in establishing consensus in discussions concerning naming conventions for social nudity topics.

Please join in this community discussion regarding the name of Portal:Clothes free.

Participate here: Portal_talk:Clothes_free#Votes

Please also join in the discussion about what to name an article dealing with social nudity. I believe the the latter term is a better term to use than naturism or nudism as it is more WP:NPOV and is in use currently. Formerly the article was titled Clothes free movement.

Participate here: Talk:Naturism#Move_to_Social_nudity

Cheers,

User:Dandelion (talk|contribs) 20:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

RE:Dean Koontz

Yeah that has been my plan all along - it is just much easier to work with one article instead of 45 before I have all the information in. Thanks. Weatherman90 00:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Category:Novels

I just wanted to let you know that i really appreciate the work you've been doing in regards to the Category:Novels subgroups; i was planning on getting to this eventually, but i feared that it would take several months at the very least- the link boxes are also spectacular, thank you so very much! -- Gizzakk 03:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Let me add my thanks too :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 09:20, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Name of the Homeland war

You might want to join the discussion here: [1]. I'm sorry for disturbance if you are not interested the discussion. --Dijxtra 12:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

duplicates

Good eye.

You will have to forgive me. The two official lists spelled many of the detainees names differently. And the 121 "factors" favoring continued detention or release has yet a third spelling for some of those detainees. Dreadful when you consider that some of the detainees are being held because their names matched those on a list captured from another suspect. If they are going to hold someone because their name matches one from a suspect's list, the least they can do is spell their name right. -- Geo Swan 00:05, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

paintings by year

I was wondering if you thought that paintings by year might be too "fine". Maybe paintings by decade would be better? I just don't see there being that many articles on paintings to necessitate such a granular category. I posted this same question on the talk page for the category paintings by year. Thanks for your input. (Rajah 05:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC))

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Please see Category talk:Paintings by year for my idea on how to structure things. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:50, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Mega Society Article up for Deletion

Ciao. Drago mi je da vidim hrvata ovdje. Amerikanac sam, ali moj djed je bio hrvat. Vidio sam da uredio ste Mega Society. Želim vas kazati da sada je na AfDu (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mega_Society). —Tox 09:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I have requested that the Mega Society deletion be overturned here. --Michael C. Price ^talk 16:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Criticism of conservatism

This section is under mediation for being OR/POV. You removed the OR/POV tags without discussion. All authors have agreed not to edit or remove the section until mediation is resolved. Don't pull the tags again until mediation has been resolved. Thanks. --Scribner 21:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Tobacco Smoking

Do you know anything about tobacco farm subsidies, and the changing laws regarding them? I thought it might be a good addition to the Tobacco smoking article. --GoOdCoNtEnT 06:13, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

FYI Mega Society Judgement

As you may have heard the Mega Society article was deleted awhile ago, at the end of an acrimonious AfD/DRV process. There is a wide divergence between deletion policy (as defined by various policy guideline documents) and deletion practice, as implemented by admins (who claim to be following the "spirit" of the law). Consequently there are lessons to be learnt from the experience, which will not be obvious from reading the guidelines. Here are some tips for future conduct:

• Single purpose users are frowned upon and were a frequent bone of contention during the AfD and DRV processes. So I urge you all to "establish" yourself as Wikipedians: create, edit and even ... delete articles! There are plenty of articles that need attention.
• It is a very good idea to put something on your user page, (it doesn't matter what) to avoid showing up as redlinked users -- being redlinked will count against you in any debate.
• When voting, include brief reasons which are grounded in policy (votes not backed by reasoning may be discounted; too much reasoning will be ignored).

Given the bias against soliciting (see judgement) I may not be able to contact you again, so I suggest you put the Mega Society in your watchlists.

The closing admin's comments on the Mega Society:

Within the argumentation of the debate, the most significant point raised by those who supported the article was that a new draft was available. The article is not protected, so this may be posted at any time and (assuming it is not substantially similiar to the older version) it will be judged anew on its merits. This is good news for you.

The bad news for you is that it is well-established practice within Wikipedia to ignore completely floods of newer, obviously "single-issue POV", contributors at all our deletion fora. I'm among the most "process-wonkish" of Wikipedians, believe me, and even process-wonks accept that these sorts of voters are completely discountable. Wikipedia is not a pure democracy; though consensus matters, the opinion of newcomers unfamiliar with policy is given very little weight. Your vote, that of Tim Shell, and that wjhonson were not discounted. The others supporting your view were. I promise you that it is almost always true that, within Wikipedia, any argument supported by a flood of new users will lose, no matter how many of the new users make their voices known. In the digital age, where sockpuppeting and meatpuppeting are as easy as posting to any message board, this is as it should be for the sake of encyclopedic integrity. It is a firm practice within Wikipedia, and it is what every policy and guideline mean to imply, however vaguely they may be worded. (I do agree that our policies, written by laypeople mostly, could do with a once-over from an attorney such as myself; however, most laypeople hate lawyers, so efforts to tighten wording are typically met with dissent.)

If your supporters were more familiar with Wikipedia, they would realize that, invariably, the most effective way to establish an article after it has been deleted in a close AfD is to rewrite it: make it "faster, better, stronger." This is, in fact, what you claim to have done with your draft. Good show. Best wishes, Xoloz 16:22, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

So the outcome was not entirely negative, although I was disappointed by the admin's rather cavalier approach evidenced by the response to my enquiry:

.... why did you discount the votes of, say, User:GregorB or User:Canon? They are not new users, nor did I solicit them. I presume by Tim Shell you mean Tim Smith? ...... --Michael C. Price ^talk 16:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

to which I received this rather off-hand reply:

User:GregorB offered a very brief comment not supported by policy. User:Canon did take the time to offer analysis at DRV, but he had been among the first voters at the AfD to offer a mere "Keep" without explanation; therefore, I assumed he had been solicited by someone. Best wishes, Xoloz 15:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

which didn't fill me with confidence about Wiki-"due process".

Anyway, my grumpiness aside, the Mega Society article, is presently under userfied open-development at User:MichaelCPrice/mega, and will reappear at some point, when (hopefully) some of the ill-feeling evidenced during the debate has cooled. I am very heartened by the article's continued development, and by the development of associated articles. Thanks for everyone's help!

--Michael C. Price ^talk 14:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Template:Iaaf name

hi, i want to use our template on nl:, but i can't figure out how one looks up the athletes IAAF-id in the IAAF-database. greetings Aleichem 16:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

so sorry i didn't look there first. stupid of me , geetings Aleichem 16:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Kenny (2006 film)

Hi there.

Thanks for helping me to do the <!-- expansion details --> tag on this article. As you can see from the edit history, I was looking for that code, but forgot it and mistook it for the noinclude tags... I couldn't figure it out!

Just wondering why you removed the {{bio-stub}} tag? I believe that the film is biographical - Shane Jacobson, who plays Kenny in the film, is a plumber... or at least that's the impression I got from the film and the official web site.

Anyway, thanks for your help on the hide tags and I hope you can give me a hand with the article.

Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III ^{Let us to it, Pell-Mell} _{If not to heaven, then hand-in-hand to hell} Hail OneCone International! 07:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Ah cool. Thanks for your stub sorting help then :-) Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III ^{Let us to it, Pell-Mell} _{If not to heaven, then hand-in-hand to hell} Hail OneCone International! 13:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Boston Tea Party

Howdy, I noticed that you and I seem to post in one or two articles dealing with progressive issues in political science/sociology. There's currently a debate beginning in Boston Tea Party as to whether the article should include the category [2]. It meets definitions set in the articles Terrorism and Definition of terrorism, however, there are several self-proclaimed patriots who watch BTP who refuse to recognise the fact. The simple criteria for terrorism generally seem to be intimidation or destruction of property in order to change public policy or public opinion while a state of war has not yet been declared. Some users would rather use recent acts of terrorism as a yardstick, rather than using a firm definition, and hence lose their ability to discuss matters calmly. Would you be able to pop in to the Talk page and join in the discussion? Thanks much, samwaltz 05:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hey. I saw that you editted a article, I made.

That's not what I wan't to ask you about, though.

Where do you get the "language" and "skills" pics, you have in your User: page?

Shlimazelboi 19:40, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks Shlimazelboi 20:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Voting for merges

I moved your vote to Talk:TiVo concerning the merge. For future reference, specifically click the "Discuss" link in the merge announcement so the vote is in one place. The discuss button always links to the merge destination (where your vote was unseen on the source). Thanks! — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 21:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Renaming

I apologize. It was an honest mistake, I had no intention of naming it *%. I was just changing Captain Underpants 2: The Attack of the Talking Toilets into its correct title, Captain Underpants and the Attack of the Talking Toilets. I just was didn't know how to delete the old one, so I named it a nonsensical title, *%. I knew that would haunt me, and again, I apologize.

And don't even say it. I couldn't just rename the old one, because a jerk changed the already correct title into an incorrect name, and something was wrong when I tried to change it back, so I used another method, taking it into a new article.

But, on the plus side, I changed all links I know leading to *% to be sent to the new page, which is here.

In conclusion, apology yada yada yada.

If you wanna send a reply, send a message to My talk page so I will know if you reply.

Wikisource

Just a note to let you know Wikisource's inclusion policies were updated some time ago to exclude source code and other reference data outside of normal publications.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 12:49, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I have heard of a "Literate Programs wiki" but I have never been there and it is not a sister project. Otherwise you may be able to include the code in a complete manual to Xpilot at Wikibooks. But I would suggest you speak to someone over there about the exact policies before doing a lot of work.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 18:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Confederation of Hackers

Some time ago you marked Confederation of Hackers as a stub. Now it's up for deletion. Anton Mravcek 17:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello

One more ex-Yugoslav on wikipedia! :) --HolyRomanEmperor 20:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Re. Roda Antar

Lebanon is in Asia. Punkmorten 14:07, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Help needed

Hi, I found you from Category:User sql-4 since I need some help in an SQL related subject. There is a wiki-project in the Greek Wikipedia (Βικιπαίδεια), to put interlanguage links in as many articles as possible called el:Βικιπαίδεια:Επιχείρηση Interwiki (wikiproject interwiki). I have found a page on pages without interwikis, here, however, it is not automatically updated. In fact it is about 9 months old. The person who made it, said he used SQL, but when he tried this time he got stuck (he is not sql-4, for sure). Could you please run a query for articles which do not have interwikis and save the result here? It would be a great help for our wikiproject. Many thanks in advance.--FocalPoint 15:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I believe that you have pointed in the right direction. Thank you. When I find the solution, I will let you know.--FocalPoint 20:23, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Insane Terror edit

I apologize. I was using AWB but that particular bungle was hand-edited. --Fantailfan 22:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Ultimate Wikdown of Pedia Destiny

Congrats!

Congrats GregorB. You have been a participant in The Ultimate Wikdown of Pedia Destiny, as Benito Mussolini.

DarknessLord | T | C 22:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Cheers to you. DarknessLord | T | C 23:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Request for Feedback

Hey, I am just learning some wiki editing and starting with categorization of some of the back-logs. You edited my cats on this one Daniel J. Terra and those seem logical. Just wondered what adding the name as you did does to the organization of the Wikipedia. Trying to learn. I suppose I should do similar things for the rest of the bios I categorize? TIA --Caroldermoid (talk • contribs) 23:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC) PS Try as I might I could not get this talk of mine off of the Mussolini template. Ugh.

Foil (fluid mechanics)

You tagged a vandalized (and nearly compltely deleted) version of the foil article with a merge tag and an isuffcient context tag. I have since reverted back the vandalism (in the process removing your post-vandal edits), and I would appreciate you taking a look to see if you still consider the tags appropriate. scot 20:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem; I've been busy recently, so I missed the vandalism when it passed through my watchlist. If you hadn't tagged the article, there's no telling how long it would have gone unnoticed. scot 21:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Bouin

Preveo sam vam to što vas je zanimalo. Bendeguz 22:56, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Jabotinsky Medal

Nice, fast work -- your stub editing!

Thanks, it's highly appreciated -- at least by me!

Ludvikus 20:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Anna Marek

Hi. I just wanted to tell you that I was quite unhappy with the deletion of Anna Marek and that I have asked for a deletion review. I am not familiar with the process so I don't know about the chances of success. Hektor 13:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

• The article has been recreated and a deletion discussion is under way.Hektor 21:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • The article has been deleted. Hektor 18:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the minor edits on Shania Twain Centre. Your edits are much appreciated. Renrenren 20:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Jama'at al-Jihad al-Islami

Thanks for stub-sorting Jama'at al-Jihad al-Islami. KazakhPol 19:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

History of the petroleum industry in Canada

Hi, Gregor. You did some of the work on my history of the petroleum industry in Canada entry. I have a further request, and I would appreciate your counsel and advice. You named my page based on the model history of the petroleum industry in North America. Now that my entry is nearing completion, I have had time to study the other entry. My strong recommendation is that it simply be removed from Wikipedia. I have explained why in a discussion page on the history of the petroleum industry in North America.

I don't know exactly how to get this removed, and I would appreciate your thoughts.

Best regards, Peter Pmbcomm 09:36, 16 December 2006 (UTC)