User talk:Georgewilliamherbert/Archive2007-05

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Indef IP blocks

Hi. I noticed your blocks log contains a number of indefinite blocks against apparently IP addresses. I don't believe the accepted practice is to indefinitely block IP addresses since they can change hands. Can you explain your rationale for these? --Random832 02:44, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

IPs being blocked indef.

Hi, I was wondering why you are blocking IPs indef.? Real96 02:45, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

(combined answer to both of the above)

What I'm doing varies from user to user based on what info I have. In cases where it's a known school or other static site, if it's truly vandalism-only then I may indefinitely schoolblock. In other cases, if I can tell that it's a static IP address and the only user is abusing it (clearly vandalism only), it is bending current guidelines slightly to indef the user but it's within commonly actually practiced admin responses. On reviewing, I may not be tagging them consistently with the guideline-recommended tags, I should address that (and go back and do so for ones I have done). I will go back through the logs this weekend.

If you're concerned about any particular block or my overall usage, feel free to discuss in more detail here. If that doesn't satisfy you, please feel free to discuss with other admin(s) or take up a discussion on WP:ANI. I have no objection to review or correction if there are errors. Georgewilliamherbert 03:48, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I do appear to have whacked a lot of IPs that don't properly deserve more than a month with indef today, on review of logs and reflection. There are 2 or 3 clear static long term blocks in there, which are ok, but I will downgrade the rest as time allows. Georgewilliamherbert 04:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that's all of them, other than the long term persistent static ones, which are marked as such. Let me know if I missed anyone. Georgewilliamherbert 04:22, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

You can't indef. block IPs which are vandalism only for the first offense. That's beside the point. You should do 24h/31h/etc. And, when I have time, I will take to WP:AN. Real96 04:43, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

(reduce indent) See this thread on ANI. Real96 21:26, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:Thanks for catching the vandalism on my userpage

Your welcome and happy editing!--PrestonH^{(Review Me!) • (Sign Here!)} 04:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Strange micronation AfD nomination

Hi. Thought you might want to take a look at this. There are a few other strange edits by the same editor to Principality of Sealand and some related articles, some of which I've reverted. --Gene_poole 10:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Sigh. Did you learn nothing from last time we met? Don't use external links to canvass, don't canvass anyway, and please don't assume conspiracies every time somebody nominates a micronation article for deletion. You'd be better off spending your time adding quality references to the articles and then they wouldn't get nominated, would they? --kingboyk 11:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

He's at it again. On top of which he's also been slapping deletion notices on multiple graphic files I uploaded which clearly state that I was the creator of the images and licensed them under GFDL (see my edit history for the long list). He's also trying to get New Utopia deleted by underhand means, by re-naming it and slapping an AFD on the re-named article - despite the fact that the last AFD consensus in March was a clear keep. Presumably all of the above are grounds for reporting him for deliberate disruption of WP? --Gene_poole 09:55, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

If you could put micronation, Coats of arms of micronations and Flags of micronations on your watchlist it would be appreciated. Kingboyk is now openly vandalising these articles by expunging all references to Principality of New Utopia from them, on the grounds that it is "not a micronation" ! I can't tell if he's trolling or just thick. --Gene_poole 11:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm a bit miffed. I don't see anything in the micronations article about Moosylvania. Wahkeenah 11:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XIV (April 2007)

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Image:Sn2006gy 3panel.jpg

I noticed you uploaded this image with a claim of PD. Unfortunately it seems that this is not the case, per this page: http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/image_use.html "The images on this web site may be used for non-commercial educational and public information purposes." I've tagged this image as not having a license, since maybe a fair use argument can be made. I would further suggest uploading only one of those images to reduce the amount of copyrighted work, preferably one of the images credited solely to the Chandra group (this image seems to be made by people without any NASA affiliation, and is part of the montage you uploaded). Thanks. --Tom (talk - email) 01:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia can't accept exclusive use licenses. Images must be free for anyone to use for any reason, or they are tagged as non-free/restricted-use. The presence of these kinds of images are generally frowned upon. See Wikipedia's non-free content restrictions page, and be sure to read the official policy regarding these images. Also, all non-free images must meet every one of the requirements laid out in the previous link. Thanks. --Tom (talk - email) 20:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppets User:Ron liebman User:Moe kaplan etc

For further info, see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ron liebman. Wahkeenah 23:47, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Regarding User talk:Moe kaplan, I think you need to go back one more level to find the root of the puppetry. User talk:Ron liebman is likely the actual name of the contributor who is making those changes, based on how the Ron Liebman article is changed with that info (check the contribs around March 30, and many times since then). I'm not sure if there's a procedure to follow in placing the sockpuppet tags; but, since you tagged the four accounts already, I figured I'd let you know. Special:Contributions/149.4.108.215, Special:Contributions/149.4.108.72, and User talk:Irene liebman are three others which have been used to make similar edits to various articles. Neier 22:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, User:Ron liebman is where this started. A new one has also just popped up, User: Evelyn m. begley. There are also various IP addresses, all emanating from New York City. There is also a specific set of articles that editor keeps messing with and refusing to provide documentation for, so I take it to be a "game" of some kind that he's got many editors pulled into. Wahkeenah 23:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Ron's account has been reported for a username violation (see Ron Leibman - not allowed to impersonate famous people with WP accounts). Assuming that gets processed, I will have a checkuser run on the whole set of them.

In the meantime, keep notifying me of the socks. If I don't respond, post this to WP:ANI. Georgewilliamherbert 23:10, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

The actual Ron Liebman (the researcher, not the actor) is a member of SABR and I assume it is unlikely he would behave the way this character is. My assumption, as is yours apparently, is that this character has latched onto Liebman as a guise. Wahkeenah 23:20, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

And lest I forget, thank you for your help on this. d:) Wahkeenah 23:20, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, ditto that, and then some! Shoulda done it ages ago, but it's easier to hit the revert button. In the long run, though, this is way better. Much danke-ness! :) --Ebyabe 23:48, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

... Content moved to sockpuppet page. Wahkeenah 23:47, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

He has invented a new one today, User:Ted ditullio . He's also using his User:Ron liebman, which has not been blocked yet. Wahkeenah 21:47, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for all your help in this situation. FYI, there actually is a Ron Liebman in SABR, who's from the New York area just as the vandal is. Ted Ditullio and Evelyn Begley are also SABR member who live in the New York area, and I'm guessing that's the case with the other names also. I'm hoping, for the sake of SABR's reputation, that the editor in question has hijacked these various New York members' names in an effort to somehow try to establish credibility. This is one of those situations (once suggested by Garry Moore or Steve Allen, I forget which, for handling rude fan mail) where one is tempted to write to the troublesome editor's namesake(s) and report that "some idiot" is impersonating him/her. Wahkeenah 06:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I would like to send you an e-mail about this matter, but I don't know how to. Wahkeenah 07:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, he's got another one: User:149.4.108.154. I've been reverting most of his edits. He's even gotten mildly abusive, about which I warned him, nicely. Some people never learn... *sigh* -Ebyabe 17:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

ngiyabona! Check my talk page and you'll see what that means. ;) -Ebyabe 17:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I spoke too soon, he's using a new IP. Check Special:Contributions/149.4.108.130. And he's getting unpleasant again towards me. Gosh, what did I ever do to him, hmm? -Ebyabe 18:11, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I checked the www.sabr.org site, and offhand I'm not finding an obvious way to e-mail them about this kind of thing. However, there is this: [info@sabr.org] as an e-mail address... if someone feels like taking this another step. Wahkeenah 00:20, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

FYI, No Guru protected the Victor Pellot page for a while. Might it be worth protecting at least a few of the others? It know it'd be only a stopgap measure, but it could give us all some breathing space for a bit. Just a suggestion. -Ebyabe 00:31, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

That might be better than continuing to block IP addresses, as the user is apparently bound and determined to get every New York IP address blocked and possibly try to "prove a point" about wikipedia. Wahkeenah 00:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I went looking for what SABR had to say about the Matsui streak, which is what started this Ron Liebman impersonator on this track originally. Lo and behold, SABR says 518. [2] and I added a blurb to the article about it. The sockpuppet queen is constantly dropping SABR-member names. Let's see him get out of this one. Wahkeenah 00:51, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, on his latest John Henry Lloyd entry, he issued a vague threat ("You're looking for trouble, sir!!"), so I threw one back at him, advising him we're going to report him to SABR for impersonating some of its members. Wahkeenah 00:59, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

There is this page with mail addresses for people related to SABR's biography project. That may be the best place to start contact with them. Neier 04:26, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for continuing with the sockpuppet blocking; you da man! :) Have you noticed his strategy's changed? He's using sockpuppet accounts more than anonymous IPs. I wonder if it's b/c he got so many computers blocked, he figured it'd be easier to use one computer and operate all his socks from it. So my question is, might there be a way to find that computer, and block it? I know user accounts are at least semi-anonymous, but could there be a special way (available only to admins and higher) where a WHOIS or similar trace could be done? A random thought, that's all... ;) -Ebyabe 20:20, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

No vandalism

you've sent me a message about vandalism, but i haven't done any why?--Jac16888 10:34, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

ok then. i'll ask again. Would you please explain why you have given me a warning, because i can see no reason for it.--Jac16888 14:00, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Third and last time, Can you Please give me some explanation for the warning you gave me. if i don't get one in a week, i intend to just delete the warning and forget it--Jac16888 15:13, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Pair-instability SN

Thanks for adding to the Pair-instability supernova page, your contribution there is great and impressively rapid. --Keflavich 17:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Micronations trawl

Slow progress, apart from the subcategories I'm still on the letter A. This note, though, is to say that I was pleasantly surprised by the Empire of Atlantium article. It could do with some more citations, and I think the sources are a little weak, but overall it's not bad at all. That's quite a relief since I know who the boss of that organisation is and would prefer not to have another run in :) --kingboyk 20:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:1-1-Diamino-2-2-DinitroEthylene.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:1-1-Diamino-2-2-DinitroEthylene.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Isilanes 14:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

lazarus loong

why is not membership and date of fundation added in the box for new utopia ? any of you actuly read the updated website or the new devlopm,ent plan ?

hi look like you edit new utopia artickel in discussen at least but why if it is fraud dont you /yours make in info on what happen to the citizens and lawsuites agisnt new utopia that is rumerd to be made ? and if sombody rasi that worrys in the discussen pages abut new utopia why do quastibn linke that delted? i mean if its a scam should not sombody guive information abut what who wher abut lawsiutes or things happen in if he get sued by a citizen in virgin island, germany or hounduras ? or (as it look like ) some of the govonouers jump the ship and keep ther citizens infomation/network/adressbok informtaion as a eh way to make a new project in buy island /gated comunity/re? or for fraud ?(if they hade 3200 citizens its a lot of peronal infoamtion that can be abused .. just look on what have to be written in the passport papers...)

do you anwser my quastin her or do i have to sue some kind of pst msg system ?--125.24.137.30 05:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for the edit on my contribution to the entry for my father -- Robert Christy. I appreciate improvements to the clarity!

Hi George. Thank you for starting the deletion review. I have been going through the Wikipedia info to try to find out what I could do next. You got to it first. It would be more helpful if I was emailed outside of Wikipedia, but what am I to do. The copyright issue that seemed to cause the AFD seemed like a very minor reason for deletion. I can change that if necessary. Regardless, the FAST work goes on in the form of RAMP, a group of universities working together to provide a platform for hardware prototyping in computer architecture and other related fields.Su johnd 06:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

George, simply thanks for the support and the welcome. I think the kind comments that have come out of the RfA have been fantastic, and in someway make me want to try all the much harder to maintain this respect. So thanks again, and any pointers tips, or general What the hell are you touching that for? would be greatly appreciated. Cheers ^Khukri 16:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Infobox Drive for the Firearms Wikiproject

Hello Georgewilliamherbert. The Firearms Wikiproject is having an infobox drive. The purpose of this is to ensure that most (if not all) of the articles within our scope have the relevant infoboxes. The start date will be May 28^th. If you choose to participate, go to our project page and pick an article under the To-do list's Infobox section or look for firearm articles that need an infobox. Before you start editing an article, please cross it out on the list so that we don't have editor's work clashing. The drive will last for five days. If you are interested, please RSVP to LWF. Thank you, the Firearms Wikiproject. --Seed 2.0 09:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for keeping up with the vandalism on the WJHL-TV page. I do greatly appericate it. Take Care...NeutralHomer ^T:C 03:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser

You recently compiled and listed a case at sockpuppet investigations. A checkuser or clerk has asked that you list the code letter which matches with the violations of policy, which is listed at the top of the sockpuppet investigations page. This has been implemented to reduce difficulties for checkusers, and is essential for your case to be processed in a timely manner. A link to your recently-created case which has this information missing is [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/{{{1}}}|here]].

RE: Thanks

Sure thing, I just figured that it was a slight error in judgment that could easily be rectified if acted upon quickly. No real harm done on the part of the blocking administrator, and everything appears to be "back to normal", so to speak. Thanks for dropping me a line! Cheers gaillimh^{Conas tá tú?} 02:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my Talk page! Cheers, --MCB 03:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Why did you block my public proxy server?AFUSCO 21:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)AFUSCO

Here you go

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		I believe this is well deserved MONGO 21:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

reply

I think the one that has gone far is the IP annonymous user. He reverts every edit users make in the Dominica Republic without caring about what other user believe. I been in wikipedia for past half a year and have made numerous articles and he is the first person that gotten me angry. Wikipedia is suppose to be a place for concensus not self edits like the annonymous sure did...Right now they are 4 people(counting me) that go against his policies and then he warns us of vandalizing the Article.

WE are dominican and we knoe the history of our country while he blames us that we are only racist and go against African Blood..I think you should warn him too the same way you did to me because the only one responsible of my acts is him.

You could ask users like User:Dominican,User:VirtualDelight and others that know the truth and that they always back my points while IP User:64.131.205.111. I never have come here to disturb and always got along with other wikipedians like User:Moebiusuibeom-en.

He Accussed more than twice about vandalism and i think that if you neutral enough you should warn his of being blocked too...He comes up here and make himself seem as an innocent editor while he is truly not.

Thats all i have to say and i'll say one thing more..If he continues acussing me i will continue offending him the same way i've done it before(because he is not the only one here with priviledges).EdwinCasadoBaez 21:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi George. I'd like to thank you for your support of my RfA. It was closed at surprising 75/0/0, so I'm an admin now. MaxSem 22:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Micronation stuff

Hi George. Just a heads up to let you know I've started to work on addressing some of the problems introduced into several articles during the recent rash of micronation AFDs. To begin with I'm looking at New Utopia. Feel free to take a look at my comments at Talk:New_Utopia for further detail. --Gene_poole 23:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Proposed Micronation Wikiproject

I've published a proposal to gauge interest in setting up a micronation Wikiproject. Your comments and suggestions are welcome: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Micronations --Gene_poole 01:20, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Merge

Care to point me to this "procedure"? Preferably some sort of policy. Guideline, even. If you have no real complaint other than me not following this mysterious, unwritten "procedure", then please don't revert me. ' 02:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you familiarize yourself instead. That is not a policy page; it simply describes what a merge is and how to do it. You also conveniently overlook the sentence, "Merging is a normal editing action, something any editor can do, and as such does not need to be proposed and processed." Your arguments and complaints are completely baseless. ' 08:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Testing

Testy test test See User talk:Philip Baird Shearer#rv of Dokdo --00:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Benny Hinn icon

I have left you a reply on my talk page. Cheers. Unschool 03:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Complaint regarding Cleo123

My rationale for moving the complaint was, basically, ignorance. I am still more than a little green in this area, and thought from the statements on the pages that maybe it belonged on the latter page. If I was wrong, which I acknowledge is very easily possible, you have my sincere apologies and thanks for calling the matter to my attention. John Carter 13:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

HELP!!!!

i am new and do not know how to do anything can you give me advicePutmedown 21:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Well

My message was from before last night, and at that point you had made several threads about how "out of process" the issue was. I would suggest you focus less on process and more on content in the future. >Radiant< 12:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Smile

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Putmedown 23:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)