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Speedy deletion nomination of Carol Schwartz AO

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A tag has been placed on Carol Schwartz AO, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Hi ElleKat. I couldn't quite bring myself to delete this article outright because, while it was written in a promotional and unencyclopedic way, it does seem that Schwartz might be notable. As such, I've moved the article to Draft:Carol Schwartz where I/we can work on getting it up to standard :) Sam Walton (talk) 09:17, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sam - I think this is how I reply to you (do I need to use code?) thanks so much for your support. Yes I believe Carol is notable (if she isn't, I am not sure what is!) and I know that Wiki is trying to support more notable female entries which I think it great. I am super happy to learn how to write and edit to better suit Wiki rules. What is the next step? Thanks so much!

That's right! You can also indent your response for readability by placing one or more colons at the start of your text. At the draft I've tidied the text up a bit, adding proper section headings. I removed the myriad of external links which were present, as well as the section of quotes. We try to avoid both of those in Wikipedia articles. The next step (and what should really be the first step for writing a Wikipedia article) is to collate a list of reliable sources we can use to write the article content. All content on Wikipedia needs to cite a reference, so what we can write in the article is directly determined by the sources we find. I've made a start on this at Draft talk:Carol Schwartz - please add additional news articles, books, etc. which contain information about Carol which we could include in the article. Sam Walton (talk) 09:44, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Sam Walton (talk) I've done a few edits - and I also tried to add to the reference section using the same code, but it is not displaying the same way as your work. In your opinion is this page ready to publish? I am still trying to source a pic to add. Thanks again Sam for your help. I consider myself pretty tech savvy but I've found Wiki a bit tricky to get the hang of! I need to watch a few more of their vids!

That's great! I think we still need to work on it some more, this slipped my mind so I haven't taken a look at it recently. I'll make some time for it this week. In the meantime, see this page for guidance on adding citations in the Wikitext editor. I'd also recommend switching to the visual editor - it's much easier to edit articles in that mode, and adding references is especially more obvious. You can switch by clicking the pencil icon in the top right after clicking Edit. Sam Walton (talk) 13:29, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay! Let's finish this in 2019?! I've just tried to add sources again and no luck, the button wont let me click to change to visual editor, it seems like a tech issue...I'll come back to it. How many references do you think are needed? I've looked around at a few other entries and Jade Jagger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Jagger has about 12 and Libby Lyons another Australian business women https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libby_Lyons has about 15... Also found a new and recent Australian Newspaper Magazine article that quotes Carol https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/the-deal-magazine/women-need-their-own-networks/news-story/e2fdb98c0f0f39202e57c276e02b5755

Help me!

Please help me with... Hi wiki editors - I've updated this draft page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Carol_Schwartz?action=edit and would like to publish it. I'd like someone to help me do that - I don't know to get it out of drafts? I thought there would be a simple ready for review / publish button... Finally I need to add an AO to the title of the page as there is already another page called Carol Schwartz. Alternatively her middle name could be used: Carol Judith Schwartz. Thanks ElleKat (talk) 04:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I have added the {{AFC draft}} template so you will now be able to find a button that says "Submit your draft for review!".

I strongly suggest that you hold off on clicking the button until you have addressed an number of problems with the draft.

I have little doubt that Schwartz can be shown to meet Wikipedia's notability requirements, but you should correct these problems:

• external links in the body of the draft - external links should only appear in the references and in the External links section WP:EL
• I suggest you improve the intro or lede with a succinct statement of what Schwartz is most notable for. Choose these words carefully, since there are a lot of situations where the first 10 or 15 words of an article are all that many people ever look at, especially if they're looking at Google's knowledge graph or similar sites that show this lede WP:LEDE
• Please consistently refer to her by her last name in the body of the article WP:LASTNAME
• Characterizing her as the "driver" of something and expressing her goals and the goals of the organizations she works with as bald facts in Wikipedia's voice is not considered neutral WP:NPOV
• Either remove or find sources for any additional statements about her that do not currently cite a source WP:BLP

The ultimate name of the article will be determined by the accepting reviewer who will know how to handle name conflicts.

Thank you for your contributions and once these issues are corrected, I predict much smoother sailing for your draft. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

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@Jmcgnh: Thank you so much for your advice and speedy help!

Your draft article, Draft:Carol Schwartz

Hello, ElleKat. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Carol Schwartz".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:21, 12 February 2021 (UTC)