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welcome

i'm always glad to see someone trying to improve dubstep-related articles!

i'm one of the regular maintainers of the actual Dubstep article (although the other two are on wikibreak :( ) and the reason i'm saying hello is because a few recent articles you've edited are on my watchlist.

if i can give you one hint as regards contributing, it would be to have a good read of three key policies: WP:N, WP:V, and WP:NOR. these three things explain a LOT of the annoying policy stuff.

i'm really not trying to get on your case, but essentially what i'm saying is that if you're going to add content regarding, for example, burial's influences (i completely agree with your additions, personally), then you have to be able to back it up with verifiable sources, in other words either reputable print journals, reputable online sources (martin clark's stuff on blackdownsoundboy and pitchfork is an invaluable resource), or academic journals or reputable film sources.

if you want to know what references are all about, have a look at WP:REF or the dubstep article, which has piles of em! for now i'll stick a tag on your additions, and i might try and reference them myself, but i would encourage you to do so and get the hang of it. i won't delete your additions, but i will add that under wiki policy anyone can challenge or even delete unsourced content and stay within the rules, even if the addition is blindingly obvious.

the article on hyperdub is being challenged at the moment, for example. look at the recent edit history.

anyway, happy editing :) --Kaini (talk) 23:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

sorry about the delay in my response, i'm not really as active on wiki as i used to be bar reverting the odd bit of vandalism. to answer your questions - i'm not familiar with trill bass. but there's a lot of shit out there :).

i come to dubstep through a love of classic acid and idm like aphex. idm's stagnant and i heard the burial album, and then the skream one... what really rocks my socks at the moment is the basic-channel/dub-techno-influenced stuff, Digital Mystikz, the stuff on Skull Disco (shackleton can do no wrong!) and actually grime stuff, more and more lately. love durrty goodz!

i do make my own stuff (and play guitar and a bit of piano, but more importantly have a good training in music theory) - but it's mostly ambient, although i do notice it getting dubbier lately haha!

anyway, not to be a smartass but you really should have another read of those wiki policies. i've tidied up that DnB album article to give you an idea of a good start! here's a direct comparison of the revisions. --Kaini (talk) 22:58, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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Good to see you here, DubCrazy. DId you see my edits to the Kids Next Door page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.58.77 (talk) 02:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Billion Dollar Gravy

I have nominated Billion Dollar Gravy, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Billion Dollar Gravy. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? S_RX 18:17, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I thought music albums were notable if a notable artist created them. London Elektricity is more than qualified, having won several music awards and being a pioneer of live drum and bass (ask any junglist/drum n bass fan), who also founded Hospital Records, but if you want to delete it, that's okay. If you don't believe me, look at this. DubCrazy (talk) 18:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)DubCrazy

That is still not enough because those are reviews by unreliable sources, unless reliable sources can be found to source it, and make the article more like an Album article. Yeah from El Salvador, San Miguel, El Salvador.S_RX 18:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I've gotten you started with an infobox and some formatting, as well as deleting two reviews that don't meet WP:EL guidelines. I'd find another few reviews that do pass it, and maybe an appropriately licensed image for the infobox too, though. SRX, The Guardian is about as reliable a source as you can get. --Kaini (talk) 20:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Kaini, appreciated. DubCrazy (talk) 00:38, 5 August 2008 (UTC)DubCrazy

My pleasure! This stuff is addictive innit? If you really feel an overwhelming need, you can stick one of those shiny buttons on my talk page. I'll move it after - (you asked, not bloody fishing for compliments!). --Kaini (talk) 00:50, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

btw, the image is courtesy of User:TenPoundHammer. I would recommend having a good look at the fair use template. useful --Kaini (talk) 00:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

thank you, dubcrazy! much appreciated! --Kaini (talk) 00:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome, no I didn't live there, I'm just from there but I've been to the capital San Salvador.S_RX 00:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Dear Luna Santin

Certainly you can get rid of it, if you like. :) Good to see you're still active. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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Wikiproject Dubstep, etc.

hey Dubcrazy, glad to see you're still editing. nice work with the pinch article there! i've moved it to fit naming convention and also fooled around with the dabs, so Pinch (musician) is no longer a redirect and the main dab page is nicer too. i have a good pinch interview in Foggy Notions magazine knocking about somewhere, good ref material which i'll have a dig for later.

anyway regarding the proposed WP, at the moment, to be honest, i can't see it taking off. a genre or genres needs to garner enough attention that the WP sort of gains enough critical mass, members-wise, to get going. dnb has that at the moment. grime, dubstep, funky house, etc., don't... yet.

man, i've spent a lot of time trying to get people on dubstepforum involved over here, without much success - although Martin Clark used to be a contributor here, and in fact started the dubstep article, and seckle, one of the mods over there, wrote the women in dubstep section of the article, and did a fantastic job as well. i think the umbrella of wikiproject electronic music fits nicely for the time being.

i think at present our focus should be getting the dubstep article to WP:FA status. it's not far off it either, it's just a matter of dotting the i's and crossing the t's. btw i'm going to have to start trimming down the dubstep artists list again, based on WP:N. hope that doesn't offend - my attitude is that having a physical release, even a single 12", is the criteria for notability. just a myspace page or a netlabel signing doesn't cut it. so don't get offended if i excise the odd artist you added to the list! --Kaini (talk) 21:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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