Dalen

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Electronic Body Music

Read my edit summarries. I've never reverted any of your edits so I don't understand what your issue is?--Dr who1975 (talk) 14:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

BTW... I do think Assemblage 23 is an EBM band (I wouldn't love them if they weren't) but you'll notice I'm not messing with that page at the moment (because it's all unsourced). My reverts to the EBM page itself have nothing to do with my personal opinion and everything to do with maintaining a banned sockpuppeteer from editing. For instance, if you were to make the same changes that user:Breathtaker made, I would only become involved if there were a dispute regarding cited information. If you had read some of my earliest edit summaries with regard to this you would have laready figured this out. Thanks for inserting yourself anyway.--Dr who1975 (talk) 14:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

EBM Sample

Thank you for your polite response about my deletion of the the EBM samples. I have the following problems with the samples as they were on the page:

1. They were in a 'gallery' section. There was no explanation of the samples given (What makes sample X an example of EBM? Why did you choose to include sample X here? etc.) Although more about fair use image galleries, User:Betacommand/Fair use overuse explanation goes into more detail about the history behind my decision to remove the samples. I think this is a case where some number of samples would be reasonable if there was appropriate commentary about them.
2. They do not meet the WP:Music samples guideline, which requires them to be shorter than 30 seconds and less than 10% of the length of the track. The two that I reviewed (Media:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg and Media:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg) are each more than double that length. If I had not removed them from the page, I would have nominated them for deletion, as I have recently with other music samples.
3. The rationales for those two samples are for their use on Gothic Rock, not EBM. If the rationale does not match the placement, they should be removed. This too could easily be fixed by someone who knew which genre the songs exemplify.

I don't think that any of these issues cannot be overcome reasonably easily by a dedicated and knowledgeable editor or group. However, I would not be comfortable with them being added back without addressing the issues. Thank you for not rushing to replace them and instead initiating a conversation. If you have any questions about my concerns, I would be happy to answer them. If I were more knowledgeable about EBM, I would volunteer to help more. ~ BigrTex 02:45, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

EBM

Hey there... wouldn't it be a good compromise to have a section for early EBM bands and later EBM bands... or perhaps breaking it up by decase. I've seen lots of sources that talk about how the genre changed in the late 90s so that couls also be mentioned. Also, I'm concerned that bands that are not notable enough to have theiur own wikipedia page are included. It seems to me that if a band is not notable enough to have a wikipage then it should not be mentioned on the EBM page. However, please bear in mind that I am more focused on resolving our inclusion dispute.--Dr who1975 (talk) 00:49, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Futurepop

I have reverted your edit to Futurepop and restored the content to Electronic body music. The content was merged there after a consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Futurepop, and I see no discussion or consensus on either article's talk page for splitting the content off again. The "dispute" you refer to seems to me to be coming from the IP editor 94.134.xx, who waged a similar edit war at the Futurepop redirect. As a result of his edit-warring the redirect was edit-protected per my request; I suggest the same for the EBM article to prevent his disruption. I will make the request. --IllaZilla (talk) 14:38, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Sure, however I do think splitting it off would be a good way to resolve the conflict though as Futurepop really is a separate genre (that might be influenced by EBM). --Dalen (talk) 16:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Consensus at the AfD was that it is not a separate genre, and that there were insufficient sources to support a stand-alone article about it. The "conflict" is coming entirely from 1 anonymous edit-warrer, who has been reverted numerous times by several different editors in respect of the AfD consensus. Appeasing the edit-warrer by recreating the merged Futurepop article is not the appropriate solution; cutting off the anon's ability to edit-war is. Electronic body music has been semi-protected for 1 month; I expect I'll have to request the same for Futurepop shortly if the anon resumes edit-warring there too. If the problems persist after protection expires, I'll request they be protected for even longer (6 months to a year). --IllaZilla (talk) 19:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of FMI/OS

The article FMI/OS has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

FMIOS does not really exist and seemingly never got to the point of releasing even a single file. There is only a page at launchpad with zero files to download. This article has been around for 10 years. The domain www.fmios.org is abandoned, the last snapshot I found in the web archive is from 2011 and likewise offers zero files for download. I found an archived page of a bug tracker from 2011 which looks like the project was active only from 2006 to 2007,

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