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List of Dragon Ball characters edit

Please start a discussion on the talk page actually outlining and getting consensus on your proposed changes before attempting to implement such major organizational changes. You left a note at the task force page, but have not even waited for replies. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 21:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Re: Readjustment help edit

Welcome back old friend! So much has happened that I can't even begin to describe. Collectonian's right about the names though, as there was a major consensus last summer (you can thank A Link to the Past for starting the discussion). Look through the archives at WT:ANIME, it's there. To tell you the truth man, I've been looking forward to having you back (thought you died or something, no joke). What happened to you anyway? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 22:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Saw that. Really wish you'd said something before your big leave. In any case, I'm glad to see you again ;) Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 23:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

About the characters edit

I noticed that you started trimming the character list. I can't speak for Collectonian, what concerns me are the redirects for those characters. They have to find somewhere to go. Thoughts? Please reply on your talk page, Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 21:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

The redirects can direct to the Dragon Ball page, or the character list page. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 21:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
Why not group them under a single header instead of just removing? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 21:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
The characters you mean? The reason grouping them together is a bad idea is that they little to no connection to each other, so merging them wouldn't really work, plus, said characters do not have much significance anyway, so getting rid of them is not a loss by any means. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 21:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
It just doesn't make sense for links like Turtle (Dragon Ball), Spopovich, Bra (Dragon Ball), etc., to take the person to a page where they're not mentioned. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 21:35, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
That isn't the only solution, I just found it better than simply deleting the redirects as well. Keeping these characters is definitely going to clog it up and keep it from becoming featured. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 21:43, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
Maybe deleting the redirects will do. However, I honestly don't see a dire problem with the list at its current state. Why not begin a discussion like Collectonian said? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 21:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Unfortunetally, the list is in pretty bad shape. Our goal is to turn it into a featured list. A good reference might be The Naruto Character list. And right now, we have way to many characters with little plot significance to get close to that goal. There are also general problems with sourcing, and a lack of out of universe info. The list can become featured, but it is going to take some work and the first thing we can do is shorten it, as it is way to long. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 21:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

How come you're not drawing out a plan on Talk:List of Dragon Ball characters first? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 22:08, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
Because, I simply saw something on the article I could fix, and thus, I fixed it, planning to fix the redirects later. I didn't think a discussion was necessary to simply clean up the article. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 22:15, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Dragon Ball‎ edit

Quick note to let you know why I reverted your adding the link to the Dragon Ball Kai episode list. It is already in the main episode list linked to the main section. Though the more I think about it, the more I wonder if maybe revisiting a discussion on having individual links to the episode lists in each section might be better (and maybe help deal with some of the issues with people complaining about the merge as they can more clearly see each anime has its own episode lists). What do you think? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I believe that having each section link to their respective series (Dragon Ball Z, GT, Kai) etc. would be good for article structure, as it would be a bit easier to find each series respective episode lists. One may argue that the template handles this, but I think it would be a postive change to the article. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 02:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Lucy Gayheart image edit

What was wrong with it, Thanks ? GrahamHardy (talk) 09:03, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Re: Dragon Ball Z: Infinite World edit

Why did you preemptively feel it was a good move to merge an article with cited real world coverage (which does support WP:N) into a series article, especially after two people objected on rather solid grounds? You don't jump the gun in a case like that, it's detrimental to the wikiproject as a whole. As it stands the article has enough development and reception to avoid content forking. If you want to take this matter further I'd suggest taking to the WP:VG talk page and getting more input on the matter.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 10:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Um, I'm sorry but that's not how Wikipedia's concept of notability works. Otherwise any game that has similar gameplay to another would be merged into a series article, which would encompass many titles with stand alone articles. I would suggest reading up on Wikipedia's guidelines on notability and what articles need to exist, and also the policy on merging. If an article is actively being actively improved and reliable sources have been added to flesh out both a development and reception section, then despite similarity to other titles it can stand alone as a separate article. And no, consensus was not agreed up on all articles, so you jumped the gun quite badly.
Like I said, take it to the video game project's talk page if you want to discuss this further. You don't impose that discussion happen only after a subject has been merged in a case like this.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 20:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply
We'd already had a discussion on the video game project page on the subject of content forking over there. The discussion resulted in that if the game is a remake but has significant content different from the original, it can pass. In a case like this though, the game is a part of a series, but has significant enough content to warrant it as a separate article granted notability can be established then it's fine to keep. The reason I keep suggesting to bring it up there is that it'd be a more open forum which this needs, rather than a few passing by editors.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 20:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Honest Qeustion here edit

please don't ignore this, as i am being civil, but what is up with you and your three or four friends who rabidly support the merging of Dragonball z articles? doesn't that detract information from wikipedia instead of adding to it? if your a dragonball z fan, wouldn't you want more coverage of the series instead of less?--show the way, HadoMaru (talk) 14:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Categories and Redirects edit

A while ago, you gave me a message on my talk page, saying that redirect pages aren't supposed to have categories. If that's true, then have I seen plenty of redirects with categories? Nintendoman 01 talk, 9:16, 14 June 2009

Regarding the 00 characters edit

While I don't disagree with your merger of the characters' articles, I think that you should have at least consulted the other members before making such a decision. As I have mentioned in the talk page, I think that the Meisters are notable enough to warrant for their own character pages, given how often these characters are featured in TV shows, events, magazines, and other mainstream media outside of the fandom. The Slimy One 08:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

goku vs. vegeta png edit

err... you needn't have *replaced* that image in the article Vegeta under "Abilities" section. you could've simply added yours on top or something. its currently deleted - no idea how, whether automatically or manually, as I did not get *any* info on what was going to happen - noticed by chance and i've had a nice time figuring out how the file got deleted from the servers. happy? thank you. yours, Krishvanth (talk) 21:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

DBZ character talk page edit

Hey mate. I'm asking if you'd be interested to check out the section I opened on the DBZ character talk page in regards to merging. It deals with moving many of the characters listed in the secondary section to the other (tertiary) section, as many more influential and important characters have now been merged or deleted. It would only be proper to sustain and maintain the same consensus on the entire page; I haven't made any changes as of yet as it may not be considered constructive to move characters without a proper debate. Those that are debatable, I've listed them in the same format and hope to get your vote for keeps and merges into the other section. I've only listed the ones I've found to be primarily lesser appearing characters and who are limited to one or two sagas at the most in their appearance, or remain background characters for the most part. As many of the characters who are listed in the secondary section are actually much lesser than those in the other, I was hoping to hear from you and get your votes on the matter. - Zarbon (talk) 23:56, 19 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Code Geass character articles edit

My main problem was not it wasn't really a merge, you essentially removed all the content from the articles without any actual merging. I could argue that all individual character pages like stuff from Dragon Ball, Gundam and other anime are equally insignificant. Let's discuss this on the character talk page. - plau 06:39, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Second Bloody Valentine War edit

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