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Vandalism

I would say that there is vandalism in Macedonia (region) by 62.162.188.110 and user: Andrej Machkovski (sock puppets?). Even though it might be interpreted that they 'edit' in favour of 'ethnic Macedonian' irredentism, I would say they are harming your (?) cause and the article. Politis 15:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

3RR

3RR on Petar Poparsov, you know the drill.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

and another Poll...

Hi. There's a debate about how much "X-ian" one must be in order to be considered "X-American" (or X-Yian for that matter) and be categorized as such. The poll is here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. Kindly weigh in! :NikoSilver: 21:52, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

DeFYROMing

That word's funny ;-) --Tēlex 14:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

What is so funny about it? De Fyroming is that ancient family that invented everything there is to know about anything that exists :-). Politis 14:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

--Bomac 14:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

FYROM/deFYROMing =

As a non-Macedonian/non-Greek, posting that article was a real introduction to the intensity over the M-word!!!!

AWN:)

AWN2 14:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)AWN2AWN2 14:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and I'm getting the feeling I have headaches from my own country's name ;-) Bomac 14:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

"Vardar Macedonia"

Hello :)

I have tried to clarify someone's post of the term "Vardar Macedonia" on my "Jews in the Republic of Macedonia" article. I am not sure if the term is a loaded Greek or Macedonian term -- take a look at the article if ou get a chance and let me know what you think. I have also messaged Telex to get his thoughts...

Cheers :) AWN2 16:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)AWN2AWN2 16:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Macedonia (terminology)

Well, that'll be the first article we're not bitching too much about! :-) :NikoSilver: 22:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Pitanje

Sta se uci/govori u Makedoniji kada su Srbi u pitanju. Oni koji znaju o tom najvise su Makedonci i srpski istoricari za Makedoniju (mada ovi drugi uglavnom ukljucuju Srpsku Radikalnu Stranku i druge krugove koji ne priznaju makedonsku naciju; i samo ce mi prikazati velikosrpski makedonski POV, pa otpadaju). Ovde ima mnogo (citaj mnogo) naturalized Makedonaca - ali se oni ponasaju kao obicni Srbijanci - niti znaju ista o Makedoniji, ni njihovom poreklu.

Did you have no trouble understanding this, or should I translate to Cyrillic or English? Bye and glad to hear from you! --HRE 17:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Radikali pokusavaju da podignu srpsku manjinu u Makedoniji, i kako kazu, "srpske Makedonce", tj. Makedonce za koje kazu da su etnicki Srbi, a samo Makedonci po nacionalnosti. Dok (hvala Bogu) stranka najzad napusta svoje stavove o tome da su Makedonci u stvari Srbi, i tvrde da ukupno ima preko 200,000 "srpskih Makedonaca". Dok mislim da je to izuzetno previse preterano, oni smatraju tu o Makedoncima koji tvrde da su Makedonci i nista vise - ali priznaju Srpsku Pravoslavnu Crkvu (a koliko sam cuo, ima takvih). Jesi li cuo da su uspeli stvoriti Partiju Srpskoga naroda u Makedoniji (koja ustvari nema podrske kod Srba u Makedoniji)? --HRE 18:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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Nego ono sto mene zanima je (bas) srednjovekovna istorija. Ako ne znas sam licno o njoj detaljno, mozes mi i dati neki link (iako donekle, umem ja citati makedonski jezik). --HRE 18:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Do you have anything to do with http://www.bomac.co.nz/? --Kiro Gligorov 11:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

OK - how about just saying he was Macedonian? --Kiro Gligorov 11:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you do have a point. However, he was a member of BMARC. It's not false date, it's incomplete data. At least it does not say he's not an ethnic Macedonian. --Kiro Gligorov 11:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Albanians in the Republic of Macedonia

Could you keep an eye for a time on Albanians in the Republic of Macedonia? A fanatic newbie, Objectivee, insists in restoring his utterly unsourced and biased edits, and menaces going on until he will have it his way. Bye, --Aldux 16:05, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Macedonian language

Yo, could you fill out and check the pronouns section? - FrancisTyers · 17:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Dont take things personally. U R lowering the level here friend...

Talking of bad english... This phrase does seem to make sense. Am i not entitle to change it? Seems not.

(In any case between you and me there is no seperate history and if you beleive so please make some reffereces to you sources).

The lack of refferences is quite evident in the whole of the text. I do not see why i should provide bibliography for altering (in good faith) passages that state important but in a way unaccurate facts and do not have any reffences to back them up. In any case, i will do so if anyone asks me for it but i wont lose my time when it seems that certain people are quite satisfied with their wotk and do not accept comments and corrections.(but if this is the case they should not write here, really)

As for the ancient period paragraph. It is quite misleading since it does not refer to ancient times at all. Propably should exclude all the passage from text. It is indeed a controversial article and a very amusing one to follow up, from its creation to the seemingly result. Is like drafting a treaty between hostal tribes. The fact that large parts of the outcome derive from original contributions with very clear, highly nationalistic positions for the one (mostly) and the other side is absolutely charming.

Considering all that, i think that i propably could lower my expectations but of course not abandon them. This article has flaws and can be improved. The fact that is controversial should not be considered a problem. There is no thing like status quo ante in wiki as far as i know. In any case my alterations reffer to comonly accepted facts undisputed by all sides. I will sincerely continue keeping you company in your efforts. Thanks in advance Haas

ps: i am not a freak nationalist. The choice of words should be more carefull. You are lowering the level here Bomac (and may i add: an impresseive page, wow! I wonder if you can tell the same thing for yourself...)

Much ado about nothing...

No, no puppet. I was puzzled seeing the "freak comment", do not really deserve it i think. I could not see to who other than me you reffered to, at the time. So much ado about nothing... See you around Haas

Slavs

Regarding the identification of "ethnic Macedonians" as 'Slavs', what do you make of it? Do you know what the different opinions are in ROM/FYROM? To be honest with you I do not know what to think. The Slavomacedonian Greek Pavlos Koufis, a (deceased?) local historian, is happy with Slavomakedones (see Aegean Macedonia) and I respect his work and the love for his region in norhern Greece. As you realise, it is just about impossible for Greeks to say 'Madedonas' and not to identify the word with the Greeks of Makedonia. Of course, the same applies north of the border. I wish there was something acceptable that Greeks could call 'ethnic Macedonians' in ROM/FYROM. Believe me, the term 'Skopianoi' is not at all offensive, people fall in love and marry 'Skopians', they go shopping and gambling in Skopia (what you would call Macedonia). Politis 13:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Question

Tell me, what do you think about this Serbian POV on Macedonia? this thing. --HolyRomanEmperor 12:28, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back

Hi, B. It's nice to see you're back from your wikibreak. --Telex 22:10, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey Bomac

Re:Template:Geographical Macedonia, kindly read my edit-summary. •NikoSilver• 23:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Question

Hi, was this anon. edit accurate?--Tekleni 14:18, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Ilinden-Preobrazhenie

Now, what was that, "there are reliable sources"? I'm not removing anything, it's User:Vbb-sk-mk who removes a perfectly valid flag which is obviously in the public domain by claiming it's "unlicenced". And that's because he simply doesn't like it. Please don't blindly support such Macedonian nationalist behaviour, but review other users' edits before reverting. We're all trying to be neutral here, so having the two flags is the best we can get. Regards, Todor→Bozhinov 15:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Adam of Macedonia

Здраво Bomac, вака јас ја поставив статијата за Адам, и ја категоризирав како Македонски Артефакти, што беше избришано. Гледам дека сега како скулптури си ја ставил. Јас би препорачал сепак тоа да се Артефакти, бидејќи друго значење би имало скулптура. Поздрав Leks81 08:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Заедно сме појаки

Thank you! :) Indeed we are заедно појаки! --Djordje D. Bozovic

If you remove the disambiguation "Macedonian Slav" from that section, the paragraph simply won't make any sense. I find it silly to keep a badly written article just because some editors can't accept common english terminology. Miskin 16:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

That's intersting cos I have a bunch of anglophone sources which refer to the Slavophones of Macedonia either as Bulgarians or Macedonian Slavs. In fact I've never met with an english source that refers to the historical region of Macedonia and to an "ethnic Macedonian" group without using the term "Slavic" as a disambiguation. The use of "ethnic Macedonian" (which is Macedonian Slavic and Serbian terminology) was introduced in English after FYROM gained independence from Yugoslavia. Greek terminology would be something like "Skopjans" or "Skopje" for FYROM, but trust me, "Macedonian Slav" is very English (and I can re-cite sources anytime). Macedon is irrelevant here. As the article says Macedonians were completely assimilated to Greece by the 3nd c. BC, so whether or not they were Greek before is irrelevant altogether. Miskin 16:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

As Tekleni said. Miskin 17:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Constitution

Is the current Constitution of the Republic of Macedonia the very same from 1990? If not, what are the differences? Could you also please introduce me into the old Communist Constitutions?

Thanks a lot in advance. Поздрав! --PaxEquilibrium 00:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... but a time ago it was:

Во ред, Преамбулата на уставот на република македонија гласи вака:Република Македонија е држава на македонскиот народ,како и на албанците кои живеат vo nea,и на останатите народи во неa како што се срби,турци,власи итн.

As far as I see, Serbs are missing, and Romanies are in there... I don't understand...

What's the difference between 1991 and 1995? Also, is there a viewable version from 1974 (I don't need English version really - I thought you new that ;). --PaxEquilibrium 00:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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Хвала! --PaxEquilibrium 16:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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The reason why I was asking all those questions is that I wanted to know which nations were granted constitutional status and which deprived of it in the new Republic of Macedonia (Serbs, Turks, Romas, Vlachs?). I am especially referring to the Albanians, since I heard so many complains from them. Do yah know anythin' 'bout it? --PaxEquilibrium 18:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I've heard complains that Macedonia changed the status of Albanians through the Constitution, depriving them of their rights or something like that (similar to what happened to Serbs in Croatia), in hopes of one way or another removing the Albanian population from Macedonia... I also heard something about a united "Yugoslav Serbo-Macedonian Anti-Albanian Alliance" sponsored by Greece. --PaxEquilibrium 19:04, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

..yea... I believe it was the Albanian Wikipedia... introduced by User:Dan (here known as User:Hipi Zhdripi). --PaxEquilibrium 21:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

ΗΙ

ΗΕΥ !!!!!!! MAKEDONIA IS GREEK ,YOYR NOT MAKEDONIANS, YOYR IS NITHING, YOYR F.Y.R.O.M. File:Greek Macedonian Flag.svg.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony esopi patra (talk • contribs)

If this was on Francis' page, it surely would have been wiped out. Oh well... Bomac 17:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I would also like to respond to Tony esopi patra's comment that by at first saying "Your not Macedonians" and then adding "You are FYROM" is a contradiction as 'FYROM' has the name Macedonia in it. So when you call us FYROM, you are calling us Macedonia, the FY part is a mere mention of our past, which could easily be used most post-Soviet states. Anyways, hello Bomac, I am also a Macedonian. ;P Attila07 (talk) 23:42, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Здраво

Типов ZoguShqiptar700 постојано ја вандализира страницата за Македонија, кој може да го блокира? Поздрав --Ditirambo 09:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Сега страницата за Македонија е полузаштитена, но неточните информации од страна на ZoguShqiptar700 се останати, како на пример картата на голема албанија, како и во демографијата и др. --Ditirambo 12:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Здраво Бомац

Hi Bomac :) I have re-worked the Macedonian alphabet article, but before I post it, I want to make sure I haven't got anything wrong or made any cultural mistakes. I started a bit of a Greece-v-Macedonia flame-war about a year ago with an article I wrote, and I want to make sure I don't start another one! Could you look over my article -- I'd be very interested to get your thoughts on it, as I am not Macedonian, Serbian, Bulgarian, etc! The proposed article is in my sandbox, User:AWN2/sandbox. Cheers, AWN AWN2 06:18, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Macedonian sentiment

I recently started this article. Thought it may be of interest to you. - AimLook 06:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I thought you might be interested in joining WikiProject R.Macedonia :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_ROMacedonia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Capricornis (talk • contribs) 00:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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Vote Request

Hi Bomac, I saw your comment in talk saint cyril and wanted to ask if you could vote on the subject of merging the three poor articles into one that can be tidied up, this would also make it easier to contain drive-by edits. Thanks for your reply.

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Saint_Cyril#MERGE —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xenovatis (talk • contribs) 13:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

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Здраво Бомац. Мојот коментар во разговорот за бришење не беше насочуван кон Вас, но кон Avg. Извини ако Ве навредував. Поздрав. BalkanFever 11:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

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Stephen

first of all this name comes from Greek: Stefanos, which is my name. and second it doesn't have anything to do with Makedonski. it's in the Makedonski names as it is in any other Slav names Russian, Serbian, Bulgarian or any other non-Greek names, Japanese, German, English etc. it's borrowed from Greek. so don't put irrelevant categories in names or anything else.CuteHappyBrute (talk) 18:16, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

lol you are confused. you should probably learn the difference between use of a name/word and origin of a name/word. Stephen and any use of it in any language comes from the Greek name Stefanos. if we put a category for every language it is used in, we would put categories for almost all languages. which would be stupid.CuteHappyBrute (talk) 23:44, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi

I would appreciate your input/view on the issue I have raised [1]. Thanks, Polibiush (talk) 23:19, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

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Don't worry

My explanation was aimed at both of view. I saw Jingiby added it back and I removed the whole sentence. Whatever way you put it such a text does not belong there. There are no strict ethnic borders between Serbs, Bulgarians and ethnic Macedonians so someone can say they are represented as such etc. And further if we put it like that: "Ethnic Macedonians represented as Serbs and Bulgarians" we make the conclusion that at the time there definitely were such people and that the map is wrong. Since this is wikipedia and we're plain editors, we cannot make such an assertion, especially in the very article where the question is thoroughly discussed (and has no clear answer). I think that's all. Cheers and happy editing :)--Laveol ^T 21:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Edit warring at Macedonia_naming_dispute

Please don't. Discuss it and get consensus, or accept that consensus is against you, or you may be blocked. SHEFFIELDSTEEL^TALK 18:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

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