Latest comment: 17 years ago3 comments1 person in discussion
Tis very quiet. ;) KOS | talk 12:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Shame, Skype slows me down too much when I'm on IRC you know that! KOS | talk 12:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Are you trying to give me a "guilt trip" so to speak, to try and get me on Skype? :P "I ain't leaving it for half an hour. I guess I'll talk to you another day" KOS | talk 12:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
I don't know if this is what's encouraged, but are you able to delete the old versions of this image: [1]? I submitted the image myself and the old versions are just wasting space. I'd appreciate it.--Daveswagon 21:29, 7 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Thanks, it was realy nice to see that! I've gone into semi-retirement, because I might come back later, but it's all too weird now. It's a pity our paths have never crossed before, because I've seen you around and you always seem like a really good editor. Anyway, thanks so much for your message! SergeantSnopake 13:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
The Esperanza To-Do List is a place where you may list any request, big or small, for assistance. If you need help with archiving your usertalk, for example, all you need to do is list it here and somebody will help you out. Likewise, if you need help with some area of editing on Wikipedia, list it here! Again, any matter, trivial or not, can be placed on this page. However, all matters listed on this page must not be of an argumentative nature. You do not need to be a member of Esperanza (or this program) to place or fulfill requests on this page. If you don't have any requests, consider coming by and fulfilling a few! This program has not been very active, but has lots of potential!
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In order to help proposed programs become specific enough to make into full-fledged programs, the In development section of the proposals page has been created. Proposals that are promising, but need to be organized in more detail are listed here. Please take a look at what is there, and help the proposals turn into programs.
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Proposals page: Some proposals have been moved to the aforementioned "In development" section, some have been left as a proposal, and others have been archived. For those proposals that were a good idea but didn't necessarily constitute a program, General Esperanzial Actions has been created.
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Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Oi, oi, oi! (It's fun to say that!) :D Thanks for the note; I've been watching you tooI've seen you doing things too (the other one sounded too evil) and let's just say they aren't all mistakes. ;) —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 14:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 17 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion
Pilotguy is happy to award this barnstar to Banes for his outstanding support of Wikipedians in need, as well as involvement in many benefical projects, such as Esperanza
I've heard a lot about you and have seen you do some great work around the 'pedia, so I figure you deserve a little something. Keep up the good work on Wikipedia and Esperanza! --Pilotguy(roger that) 01:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Aww, well, sorry to hear that. I have my contact info posted on my user page if you need anything. --Pilotguy(roger that) 03:06, 18 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 17 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Hey Daniel, how've you been? Would you say it's time to give Soum a poke or two? ;) Sango123 03:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Nudge given. :) Glad to hear you're doing well; I'm just trying to spend as much time here as possible before school starts. :P Cheers, Sango123 14:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Hey Banes, are you still up for more admin coaching (i.e. receiving a new trainee), or do you want a break? Petros471 09:42, 26 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Well, remember where that mop is, if there ever comes a day where you decide to pick it back up again. :) -- Natalya 21:12, 19 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Are you feeling OK? Was the conscious urge to do admin tasks weigh on you? Did you get desysopped in a technical sense or just going dormant? Take care, Blnguyen | rant-line 01:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC).Reply
Know that if you lie dormant for too long, the Wiki will suffer dramatically. —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 02:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Hmm...your sig looks vaguely familiar. ;) How are you doing? I've been doing relatively well...and yeah, looking forward to the SAT in October (not, heh).
What's up with the mop? :( Real life pretty busy, eh? --ViolinGirl♪ 17:17, 27 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately, the Featured Article badge on The Beatles was revoked. The article was immediately nominated for Good Article status, which it received later that same day. Project member Kingboyk said of the nomination, "I'm quite happy about it really, as I feel that GA is about where we're at and gives some incentive to work on the article."
We have a new category for Beatles articles needing attention. If you're looking for something to work on, the articles in this category and the subcategories need some TLC. To put an article in this category, tag its talk page with {{WPBeatles|attention=yes}}.
Kingboyk has given {{WPBeatles}} another major overhaul, and has assessed all of the Beatles articles. He would be grateful if other editors would leave comments on the state of articles, needed improvements and so on, by clicking the Comments link in the template. Also, feel free to revise the gradings—the assessments were done quickly, and article quality can change.
No articles have been adopted this past month. Adopt one now!
A month of slow progress and some amazing efforts. Still need help getting comments shifted. Don't forget to log your accomplishments!
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As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy.
Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here.
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Latest comment: 17 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Hi Banes. I realised that we haven't crossed paths in awhile, and I thought that I'd take the short stroll to your page and just leave you a message. I saw that you put away the mop for now, which suprised me, but if you feel good to be without it for now, then welcome back to the club for us normal editors ;) I'm also sorry to see you're so busy. That's a real bummer, and wikipedia will miss you not being around so much. However, I hope that maybe you can get some R&R in between being busy. You certainly deserve some ;)
Anyway, I hope all is well with you otherwise, and I look forward to the day when you came back to full time editing. Good luck, and take care. Thε HaloΘ 11:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Yo, dude! Good luck with the Irish dancing championships! oh, and those exams, but those aren't as important, right? ;) Seriously though, really good luck with both. I have my fingers crossed :) Thε HaloΘ 10:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Banes, I don't know when you will be reading this, but my sister does Irish Dancing too. I don't know very much about it, but I know that it does take a lot of work and dedication. Good luck, I hope you do well!--Chili14 01:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Here in Wikipedia there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go unappreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go unnoticed. As Esperanzians we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. This is where the Barnstar Brigade comes in. The object of this program is to seek out the people which deserve a Barnstar, and help them feel appreciated. With your help, we can recognize more dedicated editors!
What's New?
September elections are upon us! Anyone wishing to be a part of the Advisory Council may list themselves as a candidate from 18 September until 24 September, with the voting taking place from 25 September to 30 September. Those who wish to help with the election staff should also list themselves!
Appreciation Week, a program currently in development, now has its own subpage! Share your good ideas on how to make it awesome there!
The Esperanza front page has been redesigned! Many thanks to all who worked hard on it.
Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.
The September 2006 Council elections will open for nominations on 18 September 2006. The voting will run from 25 September 2006 until 30 September 2006. If you wish to be a candidate or a member of the elections staff, please list yourself!
The new Esperanza front page design has but put up - many thanks to all who worked on it!
TangoTango has written a script for a bot that will list new members of Esperanza, which will help those who welcome new Esperanzains greatly!
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Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Banes... Thank you very much for your support in my request for adminship. Ultimately, no consensus was reached, and I failed to be promoted, but I am very grateful for your support. Banes, I know how busy you are, so I want to thank you very, very much for such a wonderful support opinion during my RfA. Hearing support from such a wonderful user such as yourself was awesome, so I hope to continue to do well in what I do well, and to improve in the areas that I need to improve. Thank you so much :) Yours, Thε HaloΘ 23:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:MG 5804.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Nv8200ptalk 18:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 17 years ago4 comments1 person in discussion
I tried to get on but it is being rather rude at the mo' Banes. I'll try again soon. KOS | talk 21:56, 29 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Are you invisible on it? If you were to show yourself I'd know if it was me or not. KOS | talk 22:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
That'd be a pain in the ass, could you hop on IRC instead? It would be much easier for me. :) KOS | talk 22:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Fair enough, hopefully one of us will get lucky and either IRC or Skype will work. Now if you don't mind, lets stop these pointless usertalk messages. ;) KOS | talk 22:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the birthday wishes, Banes! It's really nice to hear from you again; how've you been? School's keeping me busy now and I'm a bit nervous for a piano recital tomorrow, but overall, things have been quite good. :) Cheers, Sango123 23:12, 30 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
The site of the former Casbah Club, operated by Mona Best (mother of Pete) in the basement of her house, and where the nascent Beatles played and rehearsed, has been accorded Grade II Listed status following a recommendation by British Heritage.
Project News
Some Project articles are having their Featured Article status reviewed, and the comments are not encouraging. The articles are A Day in the Life and A Hard Day's Night (song). (She Loves You has already had its FA status revoked.) Please participate in the discussion and help improve the articles!
In other Project news, the articles The Beatles trivia and John Lennon were nominated for deletion, presumably as vandalism, but the deletions were quickly vetoed.
As usual, the self-effacing individuals who contribute to the Project are far too modest to mention any Barnstars or other awards they may have received. Obviously they feel their editing/contributing is reward enough.
Issue of the Month
The lead article of the Project recently lost its FA status, and now some of the other articles are being reviewed. Citations and references within articles are again the major concern. Contributors who have literature (books, magazines, links, etc.) are especially needed to provide the necessary citations. It is not enough for editors to know the facts; they need to be backed up by other sources. All help, both within the articles and the discussion, would be appreciated.
From the Editors
If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!
Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 007 – November 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy.
Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here.
If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.
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For being my friend and all that goes with it, I, $PЯINGεrαgђ, give you this cream tart. Enjoy! I don't really know what to say, mate, since we haven't talked much, but I will say thank you for being such an up-front character in Esperanza.
Admin Coaching needs coaches!!! If you are an administrator, or even a generally experienced user, do consider signing up to be a coach.
Admin Coaching, now being coordinated by HighwayCello, is a program for people who want help learning some of the more subtle aspects of Wikipedia policy and culture. People are matched with experienced users who are willing to offer coaching. The program is designed for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.
What's New?
The Tutorial Drive is a new Esperanza program! In an effort to make complicated processes on Wikipedia easier for everyone, Esperanza working to create and compile a list of tutorials about processes here on Wikipedia. Consider writing one!
A discussion on how Esperanza relates to the encyclopedia has been started; please add your thoughts.
Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.
The list of proposed programs has been updated, with some proposals being archived.
There is now a new program: the Tutorial Drive! Consider writing a tutorial on something you are good at doing on Wikipedia.
The suggestion of adding a cohesive look to all the Esperanza pages is being considered; join the discussion if you are interested!
In order to make a useful interlanguage welcome template, those involved in translation projects will be asked what English Wikipedia policies are most important and confusing to editors coming from other language Wikipedias.
Shreshth91 informed everyone that he will be leaving the Esperanza council as life is rather busy; his spot will be filled by the runner up from the last election, HighwayCello.
Although having the newsletter appear on everyone's userpage is desired, this may not be ideal for everyone. If, in the future, you wish to receive a link to the newsletter, rather than the newsletter itself, you may add yourself to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Newsletter/Opt Out List.
Again, the issue of the month is inline citations. A Day in the Life, A Hard Day's Night (song), and Get Back have all been defeatured, as they failed to satisfy criterion 1(c) of What is a featured article?, and other song FAs are due for the chopping block. Inline citations are an important aspect of articles—they ensure verifiability and reliability, and they remove original research. Additionally, they give readers the option to read the original source material and view it within context.
Basically:
All direct quotations attributed to Beatles members pooled from interviews need full inline citations.
All critical comments about songs or albums need full inline citations to notable music critics, magazines opinions, or reviews, as opposed to being merely comments by Wikipedians.
Inline citations need: author name, article name, publication date, and name of publication. Such info is still preferable even if quoting from an interview posted upon a website; when this is the case, place the URL link at the end of the citation with the date it was last accessed. (This will help editors retrieve the page using the Wayback Machine, should the link go dead in the future.)
Beatles News
The Beatles are due to release a soundtrack album, LOVE, at the end of November, as a companion to their Cirque du Soleiladaptation of the same name. It will feature remastered and remixed versions of their previously released songs, including some new medleys.
Paul's getting a divorce. Pain, arguing, and fighting abound.
Project News
Featured Article drive: A number of project members are collaborating on Paul McCartney's article, with the aim of getting it to Featured Article status. The work is going well and all help is welcome! Check in at Talk:Paul McCartney if you want to help.
The Wings tours are really nicely documented now (see Category:Wings tours), but Category:The Beatles tours is almost empty. Kingboyk and the rest of us would love to see (and read) articles on each Beatles tour, including the pre-fame tours of the UK—and the Hamburg trips, of course!
Our project members are too modest to report any awards they may have given or received.
From the Editors
Wherever possible, editors should help to trim down on list-like prose within Beatles articles. They should convert list-like sections into fluent, cohesive prose which ties an article's sections together. Lists make articles disjointed, awkward, and difficult to read.
Be sure to take part in the Featured Article drive, and don't forget those inline citations!
If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!
Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 008 – December 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy.
Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here.
If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.
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Latest comment: 17 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion
Wrong uniform?
Hello Banes, how are you? I hope you are well
I was wondering if you noticed that Sango has not been with us since October 1, and has not replied to any emails sent by multiple parties
Is the Indian cricket team coming to your city on the current tour. I wonder if you could catch them at training and get some photos. Unfortunately, the spectators on the subcontinent are not allowed anywhere near the players. I went to the Adelaide Oval and got some photos of the English team, and will me uploading them soon. :)
Oh, that's a shame then. When I came in yesterday I asked a security guard if the public were allowed in and he just nodded and smiled. There weren't even any security checks or anything and we were allowed to come as close to the players as wanted...It almost seems a joke. It's difficult trying to take photos through the netting though....and since the viewing area is behind the batsmen, we can only get pictures of the bowlers in their delivery stride. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 22:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
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