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The page had content on kapu, balija and karava communities; which should go to their respective article pages. Other content was unverifiable and unsourced. Thanks. --Anon=us (talk) 01:32, 24 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us

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Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations (There are several kinds of sources that discuss health: here is how the community classifies them and uses them). WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:53, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Amazing! are you saying these sources are not high quality? These are peer-reviewed journals. Is that not enough? Are you going to review these? Anyone on wiki does reviews? If so, go ahead:

• Another 2016 paper used a worm model to show leucine supplementation caused motor function improvement.

From ---- Bastow EL, Peswani AR, Tarrant DSJ, et al. New links between SOD1 and metabolic dysfunction from a yeast model of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. Journal of Cell Science. 2016;129(21):4118-4129. doi:10.1242/jcs.190298. Available from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5117206/

• A 2017 paper suggested that suppressing the Slack channels may help in disease progression in the early stages.

From ---- Yalan Zhang, Weiming Ni, Arthur L. Horwich, Leonard K. Kaczmarek. An ALS-Associated Mutant SOD1 Rapidly Suppresses KCNT1 (Slack) Na+-Activated K+ Channels in Aplysia Neurons. Journal of Neuroscience 22 February 2017, 37 (8) 2258-2265; DOI: 10.1523/JNEUROSCI.3102-16.2017. Available from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28119399

• Another 2017 paper showed oral administration of CuII(atsm) delayed the onset of neurological symptoms, improved locomotive capacity and extended overall survival without causing liver toxicity.

From ---- Hilton JB, Mercer SW, Lim NKH, et al. CuII(atsm) improves the neurological phenotype and survival of SOD1G93A mice and selectively increases enzymatically active SOD1 in the spinal cord. Scientific Reports. 2017;7:42292. doi:10.1038/srep42292. Available from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5304223/

Thanks.--Anon=us (talk) 08:55, 28 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us

Please note that review articles DOES NOT equal peer reviewed. These are somewhat different concepts. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:13, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Sure. What are wiki guidelines in this? Who does the reviews for either for wiki? Are none of the articles acceptable? --Anon=us (talk) 09:15, 28 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us

Guideline is WP:MEDRS. If you are using pubmed you can limit your search to review articles. On the talk page of all medical articles there is a box that links to those searches.

For example[1] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:17, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks.--Anon=us (talk) 09:18, 28 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us

@Doc James:, could you help me understand please. Please see the article HNRNPA2B1. Find in 'further reading' not all are review articles (i had added a few citations too). Shouldn't the same rules apply there too? Please guide.--Anon=us (talk) 09:35, 28 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us

For medical content we generally trim non reviews. Other topic areas have different criteria. I personally would trim the non reviews but that is just me. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:40, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

@Doc James:, had no clue about the review part on wiki. Thanks for letting me know and for your patience and for explaining (sorry for being rude earlier on). I see where you come from, but if non-reviews are trimmed, it gets restrictive for topics on genetics. For ex: one wud have to delete role in diseases and part of content in HNRNPA2B1 and in all such wiki articles...guess, its a good idea to keep the review part restricted to medical content. --Anon=us (talk) 10:08, 28 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us

Yes we are lucky with respect to human medicine as there is typically lots of reviews :-) Happy editing. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:17, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

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@Kautilya3:Thankyou. Please note - When issue is with DRN, please take your arguments there, not on Balija talk page. Let the admin decide.--Anon=us (talk) 13:10, 2 April 2017 (UTC)anon=us

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Possible?

Hello. When the case is not closed, do not know if can add the following on Kavarai and Balija to the article. Please guide if allowable. Also request Sitush to review if sources are acceptable below:

Kavarai / Tamilized Kavarai / Gavara / Balija

Below is based on understanding that when kingdoms lose, the armies / their loyalists cope in two ways, (1) allow themselves to be absorbed by the winner, (2) move away and/or settle into other occupations. Settling into other occupations would depend on relative wealth and social position; with lower rungs taking to petty trades/ becoming farmers, and higher rungs taking to better trades / occupations. Sadly, there is little info available on Decommissioned Armies in the subcontinent. As for option (1), armies in the post-Maratha, post-Nayaka period, sought employment with the British Army. This is what happened--

In April 1890 British passed GO (General Order) prohibiting recruitment of 'Telingas' (Telugus) into Madras Army. Reason is not available.

But The United Service Magazine, Volume 12 claims The Telugus in former times appeared to be a great marital race but in these latter days they have somehow lost their marital spirit, and hence, no doubt, the General Order about their enlistment" (Colburn, 1896).

While it is not possible to speculate on reasons, it is also not possible to believe the above.

The 10th, 12th, 33rd Regiments of Madras Infantry were replaced by recruits from Burma Military Police Battalions made up of Punjabis and northern Indians stationed in Burma at that time. The Telugus already in service were discharged, pensioned or transferred. Despite the weeding out it was noted the Madras Army was receiving recruits under the name of Kavarai.

The USM notes: "Kavarai is the Tamil name for the great Telugu trading caste Balija who are spread throughout the country. The Kavarais enlist as Tamils but are no more pure Tamils than Parsees are pure Persians". Since they could not get employment under Telugu, they enlisted under Tamils. The USM, p.286 also notes:

The Balijas numbered 711,370 in 1891 and Kavarais 168,966, though a great many of the latter included themselves in a subdivision of the Balija caste, and this latter caste is a subdivision of the great Telugu cultivating caste, the Kapu or Reddi (2,453,892).

Need for employment caused above changes. Shows in 1891 there existed the Balija proper and the Kavarais who included themselves in a subdivision of Balija which in turn was derived from Kapu / Reddi.

Please guide if the above can be summarized and added to the article. There are only 2 sources on the 1890 issue: (1) Historical Records of the XIII Madras Infantry, compiled by Robert Pilkington Jackson (1898); and (2) An article by H.Colburn in The United Service Magazine, Volume 12 (1896).

--Anon=us (talk) 08:34, 3 April 2017 (UTC)anon=us

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Sorry. The mistake has been fixed. Thanks.--Anon=us (talk) 10:33, 3 April 2017 (UTC)anon=us

April 2017

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Well, see Balija talk page. Please explain your reverts there. I did not use census directly yet you reverted. Please can you talk before you revert. Thanks.--Anon=us (talk) 12:17, 3 April 2017 (UTC)anon=us

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--NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:11, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

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Reply to Oluwa2Chainz

Intended to elaborate, but no issues. You can delete. Not a great place to contribute. If online reports are to be believed some popular editors whose names can be googled and searched with "" tags; are either hired or are associated with certain things. Had no idea until began reading just sometime back. Thot wiki is neutral and ownership attitude of articles is just an attitude. Wish had done due diligence before contributing again. Bow down to the mighty... no wonder all this. Please delete all other new articles I made or rewrote fully. Here is the list:

• Ahirbudhnya Samhita - new
• Senji Singavaram Ranganatha Temple - new
• Chenjiamman - new
• Gingee Venkataramana Temple - new
• Sudarshana Chakra - completely rewrote

Please feel free to delete all contributions elsewhere too. Thanks. --Anon=us (talk) 09:44, 4 April 2017 (UTC)anon=us

April 2017

Please stop your disruptive behaviour. It appears you are purposefully harassing another editor. Wikipedia aims to provide a safe environment for its collaborators, and harassing other users, as you did on Talk:Balija, potentially compromises that safe environment. If you continue behaving like this, you may be blocked from editing. These kinds of personal attacks are not acceptable. The article talk pages are meant for discussing content. If you have anything to say to me, you need to do so on my talk page, and you need to do it politely. Kautilya3 (talk) 13:42, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Kautilya3. Great to see you talking about disruptive behavior, harassment and safe environment. You just want your way, in representing everything. It is obvious what you are at. There is nothing to say to you. I have already asked for this account to be deleted. Thank you. Request you and your buddies to please talk at SPI. Do not bring your comments and queries to the talk page. You are free to paste all your warning boxes here though; since you do not want anything said against your POV on the Balija talk page. As for comments, please take all of them to the SPI page. Thanks. --Anon=us (talk) 14:22, 6 April 2017 (UTC)anon=us

You're going to stop editing altogether? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:29, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Chenjiamman

Hi, I'm Scope creep. Anon=us, thanks for creating Chenjiamman!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Insufficient context in opening. What is it. Where is it. Where is gingee fort. What is the culture it is within.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

scope_creep (talk) 22:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)