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Your submission at Articles for creation: Matt Farnsworth - Voice Teacher (August 6) edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Tokyogirl79 was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This article needs more/better coverage to establish notability. You cannot use Wikipedia as a source to establish notability on Wikipedia and it's actually not something you can use as a reliable source in general because it's so easily edited.

As far as the other sources go, here's a rundown:

Playbill. Playbill can be seen as a RS, but in specific circumstances, typically a news story stating that the performer has won an award and/or a news article about the performer in general. The catch is that the article must go into depth and not just mention the performer in passing. A playbill in and of itself is not automatically a notability-giving source because while a play can be notable, a performer is not automatically notable because they performed in the play. (WP:NOTINHERITED) I do also need to state that a paragraph written up in the playbill would not be considered an independent source since these paragraphs are typically written up by the performer, their agent, or the production itself, so that would be a WP:PRIMARY source.
BroadWay World. This site can be a RS, however this is a link to a database listing. These are considered to be routine and cannot establish notability. Like what I wrote above, being an understudy or a performer in a production will not automatically give notability. You need things like reviews or article about the performer. (Or in the case of the review, mentions him.)
Playbill. This is the type of article I was referring to above, however Farnsworth is only briefly mentioned in this article in passing. It's OK for a performer to be mentioned in passing when it comes to reviews, however in a general article the performer needs to have a weightier mention in order to be seen as more than a WP:TRIVIAL source.
Official website. This is a WP:PRIMARY source and as such, cannot establish notability. This can be used to back up basic details, but right now it's important to establish notability.
Wall Street Journal. This was hidden behind a paywall so I had to log into my school's database to read its content. Farnsworth is not the subject of the article, nor is he even mentioned in it. As stated above, notability is not inherited by a person performing in a notable production or being associated with a notable person.
iTunes. This is a link to the app download. Try to avoid links like this because iTunes is seen as an online merchant and as such, links to the download site can be seen as promotional/advertising, even if the app is free, because the purpose of the site is to sell the consumer something. Ideally you would have a secondary source in order to establish that the app exists, which you do - making it unnecessary to link to iTunes.
Broadway World. Now this is the type of source you need. BWW isn't the absolute strongest site out there, but it is considered to be a reliable source for the most part. It does go into depth and Farnsworth and his app are the central focus of the piece.

In the end the only usable source is the final one from BWW and it's not enough by itself to establish notability. The other sources are primary, trivial, or otherwise unusable for notability giving purposes (and in one case, shouldn't be linked to at all). The thing to keep in mind is that it's expected that an actor will perform, sometimes in notable plays, so just existing as a performer, person, and voice coach does not automatically make him notable. What you need to do is establish how Farnsworth's performance is notable by showing where his acting has received critical attention via reviews or news coverage that goes into depth about him per WP:PERFORMER.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Matt Farnsworth - Voice Teacher and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:45, 6 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello! Andre Farnsworth, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:45, 6 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Welcome! edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, Andre Farnsworth, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

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Proposed deletion of Matt Farnsworth (voice coach) edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, VebGothy. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Matt Farnsworth (voice coach), for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:

edit the page
remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}}
save the page

Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

John from Idegon (talk) 07:34, 29 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

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