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Language specific IPA Keys

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It might save you some grief to understand that the IPA for X IPA keys are designed to help readers understand the language-specific IPA transcriptions found at Wikipedia and to help editors in being consistent across the same. They aren't a replacement or supplement for article content. If there aren't very many transcriptions, making such a page isn't really warranted. As there is no established need for a Lu Mien pronunciation key, I have merged the Template:IPA-lu mien into Help:IPA. As MOS:PRON indicates, a better first step would be to create the transcription template first and then use that to establish whether there are a sufficient number of transcriptions to warrant the key. If such a need is established, then we can recreate the IPA key with the correct title. — Ƶ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 03:56, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Aeusoes1 and Kwamikagami: We have a redirect from Lu Mien to Iu Mien language, and another one from Template:IPA-lu mien to Template:IPA-ium. I was however unable to find Lu Mien (in fact, any name containing Lu) among the numerous glottonyms mentioned by OLAC, ODIN and Ethnologue. Are those redirects errors or is Lu Mien really an attested English name of the language? Love —LiliCharlie (talk) 11:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

I believe it's just a misreading, mistaking capital i for lower-case L. — kwami (talk) 11:40, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

... which is something I might understand in the case of, say, French or Spanish, but English language names are always capitalised, and capital ⟨I⟩ doesn't look very much like ⟨L⟩. Love —LiliCharlie (talk) 11:47, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

You'd think so! But in URLs names are frequently lower-cased, so we get things like iumienbuddhalighttemple.org/lu-mien and www.tourismsayaboury.org/team-member/lumien, both of which have 'lu-mien' in the URL and 'Lu Mien' as a header. The first is even for a Iu Mien temple, so you'd think someone would've noticed by now!

But I don't see any point to Template:IPA-lu mien, though. The history might be moved to L and the I-spelling deleted. — kwami (talk) 12:18, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply