AhmedAnssaien

Photo of RedOne

Thanks for adding the photo of RedOne. But there is a request now to delete it from the Commons which you can find here. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RedOne.jpg

You know Wikipedia and its affiliated site like Wikimedia Commons etc have strict policies regarding copyright. Is there any way you can address this before it is too late? Are you the one who took the photo. If you are contact me so that I help you rectify the way it is uploaded and save it for use. Or do you know the actual photographer that can be contacted to provide his own approval? If nothing is done in this regard, the picture is doomed and will be removed very shortly. That's why I kept the original cropped photo taken by the actual person who appeared with him in the photo. We cropped the photo to remove the other non-related person and now we have that photo as a result... When your photo is removed that will return in the infobox. Regards werldwayd (talk) 21:35, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

But I am not the one who took the photo down. On the contrary, I kept it and wanted to avert this happening. I was appealing to you the utmost to provide authorization so that we don't arrive to what we arrived. Commons actually deleted it itself, with no intervention whatsoever from me. Here is what that page looks now https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RedOne.jpg The one who had downloaded that file didn't intervene in time to prove his authorship and Commons deleted it. When I noticed the infobox with no picture whatsoever, I had to replace it with the only one existing as a cleared photo, the one you object to as "shabby". You have to understand that copyright prevents us from using unapproved photos including the one that you were using. Plus that your specific photo does not exist anymore, so how can we use a non-existent photo in our files? You say: "I'll tweet this to RedOne right away, see if he could approve. After all, it's his Twitter profile picture." To that I say amen. By all means... Now you referring the matter to Nadir would result in a very good resolution of this matter in terms of copyright clearance, as he can provide the needed copyright documentation in a way that brings also the photographer's approval and clearance even if an officially approved photo of his. By all means do that, as I think he and his professional photographer would clear this matter and then put on Commons properly and allowing us to use it. By the way, if you think the "shabby" photo is inappropriate, be my guest, remove it. Perhaps a infobox withy no photo for now is better until this can be resolved.

Now to the second part of your message: You say: "I have a direct contact with the communicating manager, and he approved my editing. Isn't that enough, sir?" No khayyi Ahmed, it is not enough. We have absolutely no way of knowing he did approve. And even if he did, it is not a criterion for approval. For one, it is far better that a "related party" is not actually involved in any way in editing a page he is directly related to. As to your statement: "I bet he's not pleased since the one who published this biography in the first place has missed some important details that prove RedOne more successful." Really? You are saying this because you simply don't grasp how Wikipedia works. First there is no one person who published the biography. Here are the contributors: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RedOne&action=history There you will see all the contributors. Yes I am the main one there and had the most in developing the page quite extensively but surely not the only one. Wikipedia is a collective effort and there is no one biographer. Anybody and everybody can edit. Just like you added a photo, you could add any edit substantiated by references and amend it for the better. If there is any such semblance of not presenting a full picture of the artist, you can amend it yourself or anybody for that matter, through a user name that you have or anonymously if they don't want to sign in with a user name. I am curious, just what exact "important detail that prove RedOne more successful" can you mention and we don't have. Just mention one specific item or 10 items or 20 items or whatever. A generalistic comment like you did that it is "not comprehensive" or downgrades his success does not convince me at all. Of course no page is comprehensive until one more knowledgeable person adds to it. But then it's not comprehensive either, until a third adds more details. But then its not comprehensive but with a fourth edit and on and on. No one owns the page either, neither an editor or the subject himself. On the contrary as the main editor, I sincerely think it is quite comprehensive as compared to many other producer pages we have. But it can get better by your and others' contributions. Spend an hour or two and make it better. As for me, I just tried my best... and keep on trying, particularly for an artist I care really too much about ... and has made hundreds of hours of research to find things and add to it... If its still ot enough, you think, so be it. In case you want to address to me in private rather than through the public talk page, you can e-mail to werldwayd@yahoo.com and continue your comments there. I'd be delighted to hear what we can add, or better do it on your own werldwayd (talk) 00:38, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

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