User talk:Acagastya/Archive/ε

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@Huon: Can you please explain what is WP:TCG. It is something like a match between 2 editors to improve Wikipedia?
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 20:39, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

It looks like precisely what the name implies: An attempt to create a Wikipedia-related trading card game, but it seems stale, and I don't see how it's supposed to improve the encyclopedia (except as a means for fundraising). If you're looking for mentorship or the like, WP:Adopt-a-user or WP:Co-op may be more helpful. Huon (talk) 20:51, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Infobox Query

My Query; by taking explicit example. Amazon.com has a dot.com infobox. Okay. And Apple Inc. has Company infobox. I think, the later one still has a website (and today, most of the companies have their websites. So I think that those infobox should have a parameter of Alexa rank. Thus where should I discuss this change?
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 15:55, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

You can discuss it here. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 19:52, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you @Edgars2007:! But I wanted to tell you that in infobox cricketer I had a doubt and I asked. But nobody responded! What should I do about that? Here I posted. Link
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 20:00, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

In that case I suggest going to Wikiproject talk. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 06:31, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

@Edgars2007:Yesterday, in that (some online chat) I was discussing this with User:Huon. And he said that I should ask that problem at Portal but there also nobody answered. Now the problem is solved (there was one parameter which I never noticed!) Thank you for replying!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 09:03, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Archive

@Mattsnow81: Hey! I wanted to know if you are manually archiving your talk pages. (regarding the help me template!)
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 19:09, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi aGastya. Yes I am doing it manually, I copy them whole, create a page called User talk:Mattsnow81/archive 1 and that's that. But the result is links atop my talk page (3 for now) that are awfully fugly. Mattsnow81 (Talk) 19:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

You can use this

{{Archive box | search=yes |<center> [[User talk:Mattsnow81/archive 1|1]] [[User talk:Mattsnow81/archive 2|2]] [[User talk:Mattsnow81/archive 3|3]]}}.
Which results in this:
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 19:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I can't paste this on your talk page, so add it yourself please! Even I am doing it manually! So for the next archive, use  [[User talk:Mattsnow81/archive #|#] where # is archive number! Hope that helps!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 19:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Wow, how pleasant and easy that was, thank you so much! I'll now how to archive them properly in the future. I don't know if you want to modify the help template on my new flashy talk page with helped, maybe that will give you bonus points :) Mattsnow81 (Talk) 19:36, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

See, if you feel that this box is okay, then make an edit. Change the {{help me}} to {{help me-helped}}
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 19:39, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Done, thanks! Mattsnow81 (Talk) 19:42, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

You know, Archived pages must not be edited? Well I know that we must not edit when a bot is archiving them. I am unaware what if we do it manually? still be on the safer side and place this code on your Archive pages:
{{talk archive navigation}} to display that caution. I can't display that caution because it will stop anyone from editing this page!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 19:48, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

And use <center> before that template and </center> at its end to align it at center.

Will do.

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For the time you took to help a formatting bozo and comprehensive help, I award you this trophy! Mattsnow81 (Talk) 19:52, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you @Mattsnow81: for this barnstar! Unfortunately I could not actually edit your page so that you would not have to face those codes. It is because I am blocked. But I believe, now you can archive next page without much problem! That is something you have learnt today!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 19:56, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Everything is totally fine, the templates are placed above each archived pages. I saw you requested to be blocked lol. You're earning barnstars while blocked! Have a good wikibreak :) Mattsnow81 (Talk) 20:00, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

But center that box @Mattsnow81:!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 20:03, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I can't, it doesn't work. The 'center' codes are not centering it. Anyway, I like it in the corner :P Mattsnow81 (Talk) 20:13, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Oh sorry! @Mattsnow81: It just went away from my mind that it doesn't center! So coincidentally it is there at corner and you like it. Great!
On regularly archived talk pages, it is useful to have an "archive box" template. Common usage is to place the archive box below other header templates and before the first section heading so that the box appears to the right of the table of contents. If the page already has a manual archive box, add the link to the new archive page to it. This line was mentioned!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 20:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

@Yunshui:I am really sorry! I needed help and I asked. It took longer time than always. Till then I discovered the category page where it appears who needs help. And I saw this editor also needed. And thus I answered it here! I was not tired of waiting. But I felt what if that user feels that important and thus I misused the freedom of editing talk page. I have a happiness of helping an editor but a sorrow that I had to overlook what you informed me. I almost waited for 4 hours. And In meanwhile this User waited for 50 minutes or so and I started helping.
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 21:52, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

The problem here is that since you're blocked, you can't close the {{helpme}} template at Mattsnow81's talkpage. He's considerately done it for you, but if he hadn't, that request would still be open, with nothing to indicate to any other helpme responder that it had been answered elsewhere. They then get to waste their time going over all the stuff you've already covered, because they don't know that you've answered the user already.

I really don't think this block is serving its intended function, and so I am going to remove it - it's very clear that you're spending plaety of time on Wikipedia despite being unable to edit, so being blocked isn't doing anything to focus you on your studies in real life. I can't think of any other instance where I've had to unblock someone to reduce disruption, so congratulations on making what I think might be Wikipedia history... Yunshui ^雲_水 12:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

@Yunshui: As I completed, I asked the user to modify the help me template and even checked if he did.
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 17:08, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

The archive box is OK in the corner thank you! Go back to your studies, ban evader! Mattsnow81 (Talk) 19:39, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

I understood what that sorry meant

A good thing to remember when editing on the WP.

@W.carter: Sorry for summoning you! Hope you aren't busy.

Well do you remember that?
Today, while helping fellow editor, I used that box and understood what you wanted to say!
As I added it and saved...The first thing came to mind was I messed up the functions of my own talk page!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 20:11, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

No problem! :) I'm just pottering about doing small things. Ah! You are growing as an editor. I remember when I was new here and I couldn't understand half of what the experienced editors were saying and were sorry about. At least now you can understand why I was so horrified for the thing I had accidentally done to your talk page. I was sooo embarrassed then. All the best my friend, w.carter-Talk 20:44, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

So good to find you online! Well I am pleased to learn something new today!
And as I saved, I did not panic: Just because you mentioned a hint about it. I just witnessed it today! I was lucky that I can't edit and thus I didn't created a small problem for him! And please don't regret that mistake: I am sure you would have also learnt that day. I had no problem with that error and please never ever feel bad about it! Actually it triggered old memories (not so old) but the day I learnt Archiving!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 20:50, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, mistakes are a good but "painful" way to learn. We just have to remember to keep calm no matter what. Things will be sorted out eventually. :)w.carter-Talk 20:59, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

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Archive pages

Hello! I saw the post above where you were teaching another editor about archiving. Passing on the knowledge you get is a very good thing. There is however a thing I can add. You can in fact do limited edits to your own archived pages, and many of us do. You can move bits of post to other relevant pages by "cut and paste". Most common is the barnstars and other things we receive. Since those are things to cherish, many of us chose to display them on a separate page instead of just leaving them in the archive where very few people can see them. So when the bot automatically archive posts containing Wikilove we move those awards from the archive page to the page where we display them. On my page User talk:W.carter/Archive 7 you can see that I have started to move the awards (including a barnstar from you :) ) to User:W.carter/things I have received and left behind a marker saying so. (Looking at the page I realized that the bot had been quicker than me, and I have to move some more Wikilove from that page. I have not had the time to do "housekeeping" for a while.) Some editors just copy the barnstars from the archive and display them, but I think that makes it look like you have received twice as many. Anyway, that is up to the editor.

This kind of editing can be done, but you must not reply to threads, post templates such as 'ping' or use squiggles ~~~~ anywhere in your archive since that activates the time stamp and messes up the timeline of the archive, and we know what that might do. ;) And you should of course never try to edit any other archive pages than your own.

Oh, and since all the "edit" markers are gone on the sections of the archive page, thanks to that template we talked about earlier, you have to edit via the main one for the entire page at the top right hand side of the page. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 09:12, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay! @W.carter:I noticed that the user has displayed the barnstars received at his userpage. And thus I did not mention that part!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 10:09, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Stopping the ability to click the image.

Just above, you can see I've made a copy of talk archive navigation. But the image can be clicked. How to stop it? Meaning while the arrow is on the image, the cursor looks like normal arrow and not hand with index finger.
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 17:21, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

When you check out the code in the section above, you'll find this part: [[File:Vista-file-manager.png|50px|link=User talk:Acagastya]] Remove the "link=" parameter to turn off the link to your user talk page. The image will still be clickable, though, since all images on Wikipedia are; the default link is to the image file. Huon (talk) 17:59, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

@Huon: I added that parameter because the link to my talk page in signature doesn't work on my talk. I don't want it to be clickable. Like that on actual template. How to do that?
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 18:04, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Apparently it's possible to leave that parameter empty (ie [[File:Vista-file-manager.png|50px|link=]]) to create a non-linking image: Huon (talk) 18:21, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Great! It works! I am learning a lot about Wiki markup language! Which refreshes those days when I used to learn HTML!
Thank you!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 18:35, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

@Huon:But why is the link to my current talk page an external link? Using [[User talk:Acagastya|current page]] Makes it bold instead of linking!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 18:38, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

In short, because you made it one. The code that creates that link is: please do so on the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Acagastya current talk page]. If you want an internal link instead, you'll have to use: please do so on the [[User talk:Acagastya|current talk page]]. Please note that you won't get an internal link from a page to itself - if you were to test that code here on the current talk page, you'd get that text in boldface instead: "please do so on the current talk page." One way around that is to link to a specific part of the talk page, say please do so on the [[User talk:Acagastya#top|current talk page]]., which will end up like this: "please do so on the current talk page." Huon (talk) 20:27, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Oh ya! I forgot! Like what happens to the trailing part of my signature!
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 20:41, 25 April 2015 (UTC)