User talk:A Man In Black/Archive5
FROM X06
editSTOP EDITING OUT MY EDITS ON ARTICLES SUCH AS MARIO!!! I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT ESPECIALLY MARIO, I HAVE BEEN PLAYING ALL HIS GAMES SINCE 3, AND I HAVE GREAT THINGS TO ADD. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT HIS ITALIAN-NESS ON THE MARIO ARTICLE! HOW CRAZY IS THAT! THAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL THING SO THE ACCENT THING STAYS!!! YOU CAN NOT DELETE WHAT I PUT FOR SOMETHING YOU COULD NEVER KNOW 1/2 ABOUT AS MUCH AS ME!!! please forgive me if i did not put my message on your talk page correctly i am new at this.
Trigger Happy
editDear Administrator: I, like you, am an editor; I create articles and make edits. But, many, I am sure many other people out there, are tired, frustrated and angry with the behavior of many Administrators. I am certain that it is appallingly easy to revert and article, that someone has undoubtedly spent allot of time and effort writing. I have, in the past spent hours, researching, planning, writing, checking and revising an addition to an article only to have the whole lot deleted forever three minutes afterwards.
I know that deletion of material is essential in a free-to-edit encyclopedia, but if you see an article that someone has anonymously devoted their time to writing, why could you not revise it, change it or give a reason for you action? They deserve one.
I know all Administrators are not all Drunk-With- Power-Trigger-Happy-Nazis, many of you do an excellent job and you know who you are. The world owes you. I owe You.
In closing: Create, don’t Destroy. Make a distinction between “what is right, and what is easy”. Be enriched and enrich others with the knowledge of other people.
And keep that finger off the trigger.
Dfrg.msc 01:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- If you can't be bothered to be specific, I can't imagine how I can help you. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 17:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Help with user talk page
editHello I would like help with editing my user interests table on my talkpage eg. "This user is a Star Wars fan" type thing. I left a note on my talk page requesting help. What do I do next?
Image is not fair-use
editThis image:
File:Pokémon Minun Icon.jpg is not a fair use image. I created it so please don't change or remove it again.
'M Article
editI think the vast majority seem to be in favor of merger for the 'M article. You said to drop you a line so... here I am. As an added request though. When you do the merger (perhaps merging all three into a single glitch article) could you remove that rediculous image from the 'M article? I think we can all survive by calling it 'M. --||bass 16:49, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
- I'll take care of it tonight or tomorrow. I've been meaning to merge those for a while now as it is. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:25, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
- The admin came in and said he's going to leave the merge to you because he doesn't know enough about the topic. --||bass 23:55, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Fuchsia City challenge
editDrop me a note when you're done rewriting this. I saw the version you just posted, and it had me pondering what's appropriate for a list or not. (I'm not quite convinced that this isn't better suited to a list, but I wanted to let you finish rewriting.) - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 09:15, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Contrast the article as written with User:A Man In Black/Poketasks/Merge/List of places in Kanto. I'm ambivalent; I really feel the context is an aid to understanding and that places in Pokémon are way down the list of notable subjects, but this list would have 12-15 items on it, all about that length or so. (Note that some of them would be breakout See Alsos, similar to List of Pokémon items#Poké Ball.)
Your thoughts? Any worries about lost info here? - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 01:07, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
- Not specifically about information lost but anvigation is made lots more difficult. Fuchsia City is significantly longer than Professor Frink. 6-8 times the length of that?!? That will be huge. Almost as long as the Simpsons minor characters article. And that needs to be split up considerably. I think that they chould stay separate. --Celestianpower hab 09:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
*sigh* Someone went and spun off the Professor Frink listing from the big Simpsons character list, and it has all the problems I see with fancruft. It's a collection of useless, contextless factoids. The events of one episode (the hamburger earmuffs), his lab phone number, a one-off joke about how computers have improved in the last several decades; after the first two paragraphs, there's little that gives you any understanding or context, but instead random fannish factoids.
There's a point where minutae starts to obscure the meaning, and when you're talking about, say, a less-important one-off setting in a long-running series, there's a point where more data starts to turn into less meaning. Fancruft isn't just articles about things that don't bear encyclopedic mention; it's also data that doesn't contribute to understanding.
This is partially why I was disappointed (and also somewhat bemused) by the outcome of the Poképrosal; instead of coming to some sort of conclusion about why all the Pokémon articles should be kept, they were simply kept by default when everyone interested in establishing consensus went and actually worked on them for a bit. (Would that that would happen more often on Wikipedia.) The only downside is that a fairly silly standard (all Pokémon are notable) for notability was established by default, in the face of some fairly strong opposition to that idea.
While the notability of this or that Pokémon is water under the bridge (and, with the benefit of hindsight, the Pokémon species are better off as individual articles because there's really no better way to have them on Wikipedia other than cutting them down to extremely terse lists), it's not a standard that's reasonable when talking about every single person, place, and thing in the Pokémon world. It's one thing to have said "We're keeping (say) Beldum as a standalone article because it serves such-and-such purpose, despite the fact that it meets no standard of notability whatsoever" but it's another thing entirely to say "Beldum and all Pokémon-related persons, places, or things of equal or greater notability merit their own articles."
Fuchsia City, for example, is mentioned in passing in Pokémon Adventures, appears in one episode of the Pokémon anime, and isn't very important except as just another town in the games it appears in. It fails the Professor Frink standard of notability miserably, especially since the city itself is generic personalityless background in the anime/manga and has little claim to fame in the games other than its proximity to a more interesting place (the Safari Zone). Even if you can write an article's worth of things about it (and a significant amount of that article is episode synopses, I notice), it just doesn't bear its own article.
Okay, done arguing about notability. Without the Safari Zone stuff (which belongs in a Safari Zone article or listing) and the two-paragraph episode synopsis of ep 32, this article boils down to:
Fuchsia City (Japanese: セキチクシティ Sekichiku City) is a fictional city located in southeast Kanto, a region in the Pokémon world, and its motto is "Behold! It's Passion Pink!". The town is mainly notable for its proximity to the Safari Zone. Residents of Fuchsia City include Safari Zone owner Warden Slowpoke, the grandfather of Bill (the inventor of the Pokémon PC), and the local Gym Leaders Koga and Janine.
Koga is the Fuchsia City Gym Leader in Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow, Fire Red, and Leaf Green, as well as in the Pokémon anime and in Pokémon Adventures. He is replaced by his daughter, Janine, in Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal. Whichever of the two is in charge of the Gym, the Gym's interior is a confusing maze of invisible walls, supplemented with mirrors and pit traps in the anime.
In the video games, Fuchsia City is also noted as the only place to catch Gyarados in the wild, and as the first place in which the player can purchase Ultra Balls, the best Poké Balls that can be bought in the games. In Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, it is also home of the Move Deleter, who has the ability to make Pokémon unlearn any move, including HMs.
Other than the description of the Safari Zone (which is valuable information and would go into a proper description of the Safari Zone elsewhere) and the synopsis of exactly what happens in ep 32, is any significant information lost in this rewrite into list-appropriate form? - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 16:23, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
- There would be a lot of entries (10ish?) in this list and, including the anime info which is important, would make for a very large page. I do agree with the principle of a merge but not the practicalities of it. Can we find a better way to merge them? If not, the separate articles would be the best sollution in my opinion. --Celestianpower hablamé 10:36, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
More Metal Gear cleanup.
editHey! It's me again! Good job of cleaning up some of the Metal Gear articles. While not perfect (good thing you have a factual checker like me), it helps condense some of the crap that Wikinoobs keeps adding. With that in mind, I have the following proposals in mind:
First of all, I think we should merge The Philosophers, The Patriots and Philosopher's Legacy into one article. At the very least, I don't think Philosopher's Legacy really belongs into a seperate article, since it's basically it's just extending info covered there. Jonny2x4 03:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, I think they should just be merged into their respective games. You can't really understand what's going on with the conspiracies without a full plot summary of MGS2 and MGS3, so let's put them with the full plot summaries of MGS2 and 3. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- I disagree. There's enough backstory material about the Patriots/Philosophers to justify its own article. I just think it should merge into article, rather than three as it is now. And since we're talking about merging, we could merge the S3 Plan too if it hasn't already been already. Jonny2x4 01:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, one article about the Philosphers, the Patriots, and their various machinations, at most. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:34, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- I disagree. There's enough backstory material about the Patriots/Philosophers to justify its own article. I just think it should merge into article, rather than three as it is now. And since we're talking about merging, we could merge the S3 Plan too if it hasn't already been already. Jonny2x4 01:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Secondly, I think we should make a List of locations in the Metal Gear series and merge Outer Heaven, Zanzibar Land Shadow Moses Island, the Big Shell, Tselinoyarsk and Groznyj Grad into it. I'm not too sure of merging Zanzibar Land and Outer Heaven, since these are actual sovereign entities in the game and not just mere locations. Jonny2x4 03:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- Almost all of those should probably be merged into the games, too. There's not much to say about those locations save for the events of the games set there.
- Outer Heaven should probably be merged into Big Boss or Metal Gear (series), because of its iconic role. Not worth an article, though. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- I disagree on both counts. Some of the locations have an established backstory and history besides the events that transpired during the games. At the very least, we could describe the unique characteristics of each place without bloating down each of the game's articles. Jonny2x4 01:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Generally, that backstory is the same as the backstory of the game they appear in. I think possible Outer Heaven is too much to merge, but there's not much to say about, say, Shadow Moses, the Big Shell, Zanzibar Land, or Tselwhatever besides the events of the respective games. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:34, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- I disagree on both counts. Some of the locations have an established backstory and history besides the events that transpired during the games. At the very least, we could describe the unique characteristics of each place without bloating down each of the game's articles. Jonny2x4 01:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
And finally, I think the Genome Soldiers (as well as the Gurlukovich Mercenaries for that matter) are a distinct enough presence from Big Boss to warrant a notice. I think we should do a List of enemy units in the Metal Gear series and have the Tengu Commandos, Solidus Snake's Private Army, KGB, GRU and Ocelot Unit. Jonny2x4 03:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- They're cannon fodder, with only a "Well, they came from foo, work for bar, and protect foobar" to say about them. I really think they belong in the respective game articles. The only reason I merged the Genome Soldiers into Big Boss is because that info belongs in a general section in the Big Boss article about his genetic legacy.
- Maybe so, but the Genome Soldiers article contained info about the backstory, as well as a description of each type of Genome Soldier encountered in the game, which you decided to ommit when you merged the article with Big Boss and I think it should be restored in some form or another. Likewise for all the zako characters. Even if they don't have an established backstory, a list could still be justified. Jonny2x4 01:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- The only difference among the types of Genome Soldiers is the color of their uniforms. I deleted if for the same reason I've deleted the exact age, height, and weight of the characters: it's trivia, serving little purpose.
- There's even less to say about the other units. I even AFDed the Gurlukovich Mercenaries articles. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:34, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Maybe so, but the Genome Soldiers article contained info about the backstory, as well as a description of each type of Genome Soldier encountered in the game, which you decided to ommit when you merged the article with Big Boss and I think it should be restored in some form or another. Likewise for all the zako characters. Even if they don't have an established backstory, a list could still be justified. Jonny2x4 01:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Let me know what you think. Jonny2x4 03:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- Basically, I'd rather see info in the game articles themselves, unless it's something that can't reasonably be handled in one game article (the Metal Gears, for example) or including it in the game articles would bloat those articles too much (the lists of characters). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- True. Although, I think a lot of the stuff I propose deserve their own articles and could prevent the game articles from bloating in the future (as well as discourage new users from making their own articles). Please consider it seriously though. Not that I need your permission, but your assistance would still be appreciated. Jonny2x4 01:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- No, I appreciate you seeking my input.
- Honestly, I don't think there's a lot of value in documenting the obscure backstory facts and every place and organization separately. In rewriting the Metal Gear articles and the character articles, I think I've deleted about a half-dozen plot summaries of each Metal Gear game, and any separate article tends to attract that sort of useless bloat.
- That said, I'm not sure how to handle groups like the Philosophers/Patriots. Their backstories are told as grand reveals at the end of the game, and making it hard to explain what's going on in MGS2 and 3 without cramming a LOT of detail into the end of the plot summary. I'd rather not have a separate article about the information delivered in that dramatic reveal, though. :/ - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:34, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- True. Although, I think a lot of the stuff I propose deserve their own articles and could prevent the game articles from bloating in the future (as well as discourage new users from making their own articles). Please consider it seriously though. Not that I need your permission, but your assistance would still be appreciated. Jonny2x4 01:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
no email address?
editHi - I don't know if you realize it, but you can't be contacted by the wikipedia "email this user" link. This might be related to the (relatively recent) email validation feature. Seems to me all admins should have a valid (and validated) email address. Just thought I'd let you know. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- I disabled it after a series of obnoxious e-mails. I'll reenable it after a while. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Why did you take out my info about Jynx and the cave!!
editThere is no good reason to do that. All i was saying that if Jynx was real thats where it would be located. In fact, I encourage you to do the same about other pokemon Articles. But the bottom line is: dont take it out and if you do, give a reason.
- Because it's speculative and unencyclopedic. Please don't persist in adding this speculation to Pokémon articles. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- YES BUT SO IS A LOT OF THE OTHER POKEMON THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE WRITE AND NOW YOU ARE TAKING OUT A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WRITE ABOUT POKEMON LIKE THE THING ABOUT KOFFING IN SMOKESTACKS. DONT DO THIS IT RUINS WIKIPEDIA. PLEASE, I BEG OF YOU, DONT DO THIS.
- Well, when I find those other speculative and unencyclopedic things that other people have written, I'll delete them, too. Please stop adding this inappropriate material. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:21, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- this isnt inappropriate its very good information. pokemon is purely speculative. these creatures do not actually exist. you might as well delete the whole article. just think about it man.
- You're right, they don't exist. Please don't add speculative information about how they would supposedly fit into the real world if they did exist. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH THO THAT MY INFORMATION IS SPECULATIVE. ALL OF POKEMON IS SPECULATIVE SO YOU SHOULD BE TAKING OUT WHAT I PUT IN. ALL OF POKEMON IS CREATIVE AND SO IS WHAT I WROTE.
- No, it's fictional, not speculative. Wikipedia isn't here to host your speculation about what Pokémon would be if they were real. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH THO THAT MY INFORMATION IS SPECULATIVE. ALL OF POKEMON IS SPECULATIVE SO YOU SHOULD BE TAKING OUT WHAT I PUT IN. ALL OF POKEMON IS CREATIVE AND SO IS WHAT I WROTE.
- You're right, they don't exist. Please don't add speculative information about how they would supposedly fit into the real world if they did exist. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- this isnt inappropriate its very good information. pokemon is purely speculative. these creatures do not actually exist. you might as well delete the whole article. just think about it man.
- Well, when I find those other speculative and unencyclopedic things that other people have written, I'll delete them, too. Please stop adding this inappropriate material. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:21, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- YES BUT SO IS A LOT OF THE OTHER POKEMON THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE WRITE AND NOW YOU ARE TAKING OUT A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WRITE ABOUT POKEMON LIKE THE THING ABOUT KOFFING IN SMOKESTACKS. DONT DO THIS IT RUINS WIKIPEDIA. PLEASE, I BEG OF YOU, DONT DO THIS.
- THOSE ARE BASICALLT THE SAME THINGS!!!!!!
- Listen, what i wrote should be kept on there, because they actually add to the article. Im a big fan of pokemon and it makes pokemon seem more real and it gets you to think about pokemon more. and if wikipedia isnt here to say what pokemon would be like if they were real, then how come theres information about that in many of the pokemon aritcles???
No, they're not the same thing, and you shouldn't be making up things to make Pokémon seem more real because Pokémon aren't real. Those articles describe a fictional universe, not a real one, and I'll thank you to stop confusing the two. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- NOBODY BELIEVES ME SO WHY DOES IT MATTER TO YOU. LOOK POKEMON IS ONE OF THE GREATEST GAMES IN THE WORLD, AND IM SURE THAT MANY OTHER FANS WOULD LIKE THIS TOO. ARE YOU NOT A FAN OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT THEN YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY JUST DELETING WAT I SAY BECAUSE IM A FAN AND YOU DONT LIKE ME.
- I don't even know you, and I certainly wouldn't waste so much time working on Pokémon articles if I wasn't interested in the subject. That said, I just don't want you making up what is essentially Pokémon fan-fiction, when I and others have gone to a great deal of effort to keep people from doing just that here on Wikipedia. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- NO ITS NOT FAN FICTION, THOUGH IT IS SPECULATION, BUT ITS SPECULATION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS PURELY SPECULATIVE. WHEN THE PEOPLE WHO CREATED POKEMON, CREATED POKEMON THEY SPECULATED ON WHAT A POKEMON WOULD BE LIKE IF IT WERE REAL. THAT INFORMATION WAS PUT IN WIKIPEDIA, AND IM ACTUALLY DOING THE SAME THING SO I DONT KNOW HOW YOU CAN THINK OF IT AS WRONG.
- Let's discuss this at Talk:Pokémon, instead. And please turn off caps lock. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:01, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- I played a game like this when I was a kid on buses! You had to try and think of what kind of Pokémon would live in certain environments :P. Needless to say, I'm still looking for those Grimer in the sewage plants, fictional or not.. Highway 23:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Mewtwo Issues
editYeah, I'm noticing some issues with an attempt to merge the Mewtwo articles I made a while back, so I'm hoping I can get some feedback as to what to do. What I'm doing now is making a crisp writeup about Mewtwo's anime character and putting it in the main page, keeping the rest of the stuff from the Anime article in the Anime article. Afterwards, if you think it'd work, I can dismantle the anime page and shift its information into the First Movie and Mewtwo Returns movie articles. What do you think? Erik the Appreciator 18:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
After thinking about it over Easter, I find that the page should stay, but should just be tweaked a bit. But I'm now implementing full-page rewrites into the Movie articles, so I think all this Mewtwo business will be wrapped up. Erik the Appreciator 18:00, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Mascara Rouge admins
edit
Thanks for reverting my edits to that page. I don't know what got into me. :-)) Slowmover 14:38, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Cruft
edit- Mega Man character cleanup
- Dr. Wily (ideally getting it up to FAC quality) - User:A Man In Black/Dr. Wily draft
- Merge Enker and the other Rockman Killer bots into it
- Bass (character)
- Mega Man X (character)
- Merge Dr. Cossack into Mega Man IV
- Dr. Wily (ideally getting it up to FAC quality) - User:A Man In Black/Dr. Wily draft
- Finish rewriting xD-Picture Card (temp at User:A Man In Black/xDtemp)
- (Someday) excise Criticism sections from articles and redistribute the criticism to the relevant parts of the article
- Merge and/or replace with redirects any gamecruft character or object article
Knowing me, I'll never get it all done.
- I finally got the time to scrupple with these nasty articles, and I've went and cleaned up all of them. As for merging, those articles are now too large to be realistically inserted into Wily's, but I've removed all the cruft and laudible information. As for redirects and the like, I've taken your lead and redirected such minor characters like Guts Man to the Robot Master article. Finally, I've also been making lists, such as this and this. Its taken awhile, and I hope you're pleased. If you've any comments, I would appreciate them on my talkpage. -ZeroTalk 18:14, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- Looking good, all around. It's been a while since I've touched any Mega Man articles, so I'm glad to see someone's cleaning them up. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 21:04, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- That's lovely you think so. I was also paticularly curious on what your opinion was of the lists I constructed:
- Looking good, all around. It's been a while since I've touched any Mega Man articles, so I'm glad to see someone's cleaning them up. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 21:04, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- I finally got the time to scrupple with these nasty articles, and I've went and cleaned up all of them. As for merging, those articles are now too large to be realistically inserted into Wily's, but I've removed all the cruft and laudible information. As for redirects and the like, I've taken your lead and redirected such minor characters like Guts Man to the Robot Master article. Finally, I've also been making lists, such as this and this. Its taken awhile, and I hope you're pleased. If you've any comments, I would appreciate them on my talkpage. -ZeroTalk 18:14, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- List of Mega Man weapons
- List of Mega Man skills and attacks
- List of Mavericks
- List of Neo Arcadian boss characters -ZeroTalk 21:15, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I can't say I'm particularly happy with them in principle, but I feel they're better than similar individual articles on each listed item. List of Mega Man skills and attacks could do with a non-table presentation, but I'm not sure how you'd present it without the table. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 21:22, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well its good to see that you're well-versed in the source material and interested. I'm open to any and all suggestions you might have.
- I can't say I'm particularly happy with them in principle
- I'm not quite sure what you mean by that comment. Did I go overboard perhaps..?-ZeroTalk 21:27, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- No, I know why you made them, but I'm of the thinking that, usually, big lists of objects or "characters" with little personality or backstory aren't very encyclopedic. That said, I was the one who made List of Pokémon items, so I know that lists like that are better than the alternative. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 21:37, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure what you mean by that comment. Did I go overboard perhaps..?-ZeroTalk 21:27, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- Of course. I see where you're coming from; rather this than having individual articles such as the erroneous Magma Dragoon lying about, you know. Still, as experienced editors, we must take into account that a list should overule any attempt for construction of a minor character article or object, unless an oppurtunity for expansion develops into the equation.
- Now back to the failings you speak of, we must ammend that. What about these articles needs improvement...? I'm paticularly worried about List of Mega Man weapons. I'd really be pleased to extrude that to featured list status. I have to insert fair use rationale on the images, but that still leaves the content. Some nagging by User:Radiant! has placed me on the road to this task. You also might want to see the ongoing peer review and talkpage for more comments. -ZeroTalk 21:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
please explain your actions.
edithello. You have reverted my comments to a talk page. As I understand the rules, that is against them. Please explain your reasoning and justifications for this action. Thanks. Prometheuspan 02:52, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Image:Feebas.gif listed for deletion
editIPod
editHi! Kindly refer to the revert here I think diagnostic mode is an important feature of the ipod. I would just like to know why information on it shouldn't be there on the ipod article. bandan 06:27, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oops, didn't mean to use rollback there. Force of habit, sorry.
- I did, however, mean to revert. Wikipedia is not a how-to guide, so there's no need to add a how-to on how to access the (mostly useless to most users) diagnostic mode, especially given the bloated state of the article. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:31, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes I agree with you but don't you think the article should atleast mention that such a feature exists without giving the technicalities of it. bandan 06:35, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- No, I really don't. Nearly every single computerized appliance has a similar mode, and the iPod's isn't particularly remarkable. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oh is it ?? Sorry! I was not aware of that because ipod was the first embedded device that I handled personally with so easy access to the feature. bandan 06:57, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- No, I really don't. Nearly every single computerized appliance has a similar mode, and the iPod's isn't particularly remarkable. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes I agree with you but don't you think the article should atleast mention that such a feature exists without giving the technicalities of it. bandan 06:35, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Talk Ex-Yugoslavia
editTalk:Kosovo#2 Administrator for Ex-Yugoslavien articels in Wikipedia- The voice of Kosovar
65.103.86.212
editI think you’d better go ahead and block the vandal IP 65.103.86.212. We can’t be constantly reverting the Pokémon Adventures pages. If you’re not comfortable doing it yourself because you're involved, I’m sure Celestianpower will do it if you ask nicely. Thanks. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 21:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- It's not a matter of comfort, unfortunately. I'll block the IP temporarily if I see him/her at it, but I can't block an anon IP indefinitely like I can a vandalism-only registered user. If I catch the IP at it again, though, I'll block for a week and see if it helps. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
What kind of work is this person doing? I'm sure it can't be all bad. IrishGuy (—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.103.86.243 (talk • contribs) )
- I didn't make the above comment. 65.103.86.243 was impersonating my account. IrishGuy 17:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Duck King Article
editWhy did you take down the article I worte on the Duck King? I provided enough backstory and information, that he should have his own page. He should not be even concidered a minor character to KOF in the first place concidering this is the first KOF game he's actually a playable non-striker character in. (BackLash 03:56, 21 April 2006 (UTC))
- He appears in one game as a playable character, and doesn't have a major role in the plot?
- If he were any less noteworthy, he wouldn't merit a list entry, in my opinion. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- My point is he did more in Fatal Fury, than he did in KOF, he's been in way more games there as well. The information on him should not be just limited to King of Fighters, which mine has info from both game series that he appeared in. Would you put Geese, Krauser and Mr. Big in minor lists because they only appeared in KOF96 (with Geese only being refrenced in later games afterwards)? Besides Megaman Zero said and I cut and paste: Until someone is willing to evicerate their laziness and actually fleash each character out, they will remain in list format. Its about high-time someone desisted adding trivia and actually wrote about the character. and Expand the articles, and they'll be moved back out to namespace. and that's what I did. (BackLash 04:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC))
- Well, I'm not entirely sure that is the right list for Duck King; eventually the majority of the minor characters will be merged into lists. If you'd like to start doing a list for minor/supporting characters of Fatal Fury, I'd be all for moving Duck King there.
- Quibbling over which list this character should be merged into, most of these characters just don't bear expanding. Duck King's article is stretched near to the breaking point and it's still one page of overbloated prose and a fugly infobox. That's not an article; that's a prime candidate for a list merge. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- My point is he did more in Fatal Fury, than he did in KOF, he's been in way more games there as well. The information on him should not be just limited to King of Fighters, which mine has info from both game series that he appeared in. Would you put Geese, Krauser and Mr. Big in minor lists because they only appeared in KOF96 (with Geese only being refrenced in later games afterwards)? Besides Megaman Zero said and I cut and paste: Until someone is willing to evicerate their laziness and actually fleash each character out, they will remain in list format. Its about high-time someone desisted adding trivia and actually wrote about the character. and Expand the articles, and they'll be moved back out to namespace. and that's what I did. (BackLash 04:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC))
Now, I didn't realize how much you expanded Duck King, and I've reverted my reversion pending this discussion and outside input. (I feel MMZ should weigh in, at least.) In the meantime, I'm going to edit Duck King (with a chainsaw) and restore the uniform infobox. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. That's correct. I'm a robot of my word. Lovely article. -ZeroTalk 04:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Please bear in mind that I feel the "article" as it exists now should indeed be merged into a list. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:52, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think that's pretty good. It still looks merge worthy. -ZeroTalk 04:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you A Man In Black and thank you Zero for keeping the content. As merging it, I can live with that. (BackLash 05:04, 21 April 2006 (UTC))
- Ah, this all boils down to "AMIB doesn't pay attention to what he is doing," since nothing beyond my mistake is a point of contention. Ah, well. :D - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:08, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you A Man In Black and thank you Zero for keeping the content. As merging it, I can live with that. (BackLash 05:04, 21 April 2006 (UTC))
Lack of source in List of Advance Wars COs images
editHello there! I have noticed the cropped faces of the COs shown in List of Advance Wars COs, although having a license and a fair use rationale, are lacking a source. I believe you have taken them from Nintendo site. Would you please add a source URL for each of them? I don't want to spam this page with {{nosource}} tags, as you are active and a good editor, and this page is rather busy. If you can't do that, I will just have to spam you ;-) -- ReyBrujo 02:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- They're from a Nintendo press CD, that I probably got from Bendis-Helper (or whoever Nintendo's PR company was at the time) or at E3. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Just a heads up, you might like to see the post-closing history of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Now Hiring, if you hadn't noticed it already. --W.marsh 14:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think anything I would have said has been said by others. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid you're the one in the wrong here. There isn't a need to take a closed result to deletion review when you're not disputing the result. There was an obvious consensus to keep the article for a variety of reasons, and that was entirely fair enough. And that was all that needed to be, and should have been, said on the matter.
MfD is a process that relies on consensus. If I went in, closed the MfD and deleted the article because I disagreed with some of the keep votes, I'd be justifiably hung, drawn and quartered. What I very much object to is you doing effectively the same thing - closing it because you disagreed with some of the votes, not because of the consensus that was already there. Ambi 03:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't disagree with any of the arguments made. They were not, however, arguments to delete, but instead arguments to tag the proposal {{rejected}}. Is there an argument there that makes the case that the proposal should not only be deleted but removed from Wikipedia? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm having a content dispute on Talk:Ridge Racer. The other fellow and I aren't progressing in ethier direction on this debate, so I'd like your opinion. -ZeroTalk 16:41, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Image source disupute
editHi, we meet again. I was hoping you could help resolve a conflict between myself and User:Asams10, concerning this image, which he uploaded. I claim that the image has no source information, and that according to Wiki policy, the image should be deleted. Asams10 claims that my interpretation of Wiki policy is incorrect, and that the image is already sourced. Our entire discussion can be found at (1) and (2). We greatly value your opinion. - Tronno ( t | c ) 20:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
- I am absolutely, positively not the person to talk to about images. My suggestion would be to take this to WP:IFD or WP:CP, where one of the copyright wonks should spot the dispute and offer a helping hand. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:18, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
In the above AFD, you closed it early as a speedy keep. I just wanted to let you know that this closure may not have been appropriate. From Wikipedia:Speedy keep:
An article can be speedily kept ONLY if one of the following holds:
...
4. the nomination was clear-cut vandalism or WP:POINT and nobody disputes this or votes to delete it anyway (since calling a nomination vandalistic does not make it so and actual POINT-making AFD nominations appear far less frequently than accusations thereof).
In this AFD, Hirudo had voted to delete the page, so closing it as a speedy keep does not appear to have been in accordance with the relevant guideline. It's no big deal, but just something to watch out for in the future.
Have a nice day :) Stifle (talk) 18:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- It was clear-cut disruption, so I moved to stop it from becoming worse. If Hirudo wants the article deleted, there's nothing preventing a non-disruptive, productive AFD. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
A Gift
editHey there! I've wanted to try the image uploading business for a long time, so here is my first visual contribution: A comedic gift to you that depicts you as you friend User:Emstu10 describes on your user page. Enjoy!
Now, if only it were that easy to upload Golden Sun characters into those articles... Erik the Appreciator 18:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
One Piece character attacks
editPlease see Talk:Roronoa Zoro#Incriminate information and my talkpage; we've currently got an ongoing discussion proceeding about this. I need an intervention. -ZeroTalk 05:38, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- I really can't get into it on every single talk page over these same issues, unfortunately, especially for series I know nothing about. My suggestion is to reuse the same arguments used elsewhere, since they're still good, and see if there's an applicable Wikiproject (usually they're a bit more sane). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- Its okay. We've reached a resoulution on my talkpage; this fellows a reasonable chap. -ZeroTalk 08:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi! I found the Arm Cannon article browsing through the Samus Aran article, and I agree with you, it was awful. As nominator for AFD, I though you should know I've tried to give it a proper rewrite, so it becomes an article, rather than a poorly formatted list. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 20:38, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Extremely stale article.
editI have recently came over this article,Cheap cd, and I was wondering if being an admin, and if you have time, if you could take care of it. If you take a look at the associated article for deletion page, you'll see that its been up for deletion for quite a long time, with no opposition and no action either. Seeing as how its a blatant advertisement it probably should have been speedied in the first place. Thanks in advance. --Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 03:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- I see it has been taken care of. I do not know if it was your doing or not but if it was, thank you. Another blemish finally removed from Wikipedia.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 03:27, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Marudubshinki took care of it before I even saw this on my talkpage. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Mewtwo image notice
editYep, it's me again. I just uploaded a bunch of images into the Mewtwo (Anime) article, and I know that they're all legally licensed and such. Now, I remember some talk about how the last section of the article, "Mewtwo's Band of Clones", that huge table with all the Pokemon images that some IP address made (remember you called it a "huge, ugly, fancruft section" a while back), doesn't need to be there, and should be deleted. Well, I think that all the new images make the page look better on their own, so now you can feel free to delete that entire last section. Thanks. Erik the Appreciator 19:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I still think it's huge, ugly, and pure fancruft. There's no need to list every single Pokémon Mewtwo cloned. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Exactly, that's why I'm notifying you that I think that huge list should be deleted. I could just delete it myself, but you seem used to people yelling at you for deleting their hard work, so I figured you'd rather do the honors. At any rate, I'm planning to do some more rewriting and refinements to the text of the page, as well as get a bunch of the main Mewtwo page fixed up in the near future. Erik the Appreciator 17:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
- Haha, okay. List deleted, and I'll catch the flak. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
- Exactly, that's why I'm notifying you that I think that huge list should be deleted. I could just delete it myself, but you seem used to people yelling at you for deleting their hard work, so I figured you'd rather do the honors. At any rate, I'm planning to do some more rewriting and refinements to the text of the page, as well as get a bunch of the main Mewtwo page fixed up in the near future. Erik the Appreciator 17:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Having pretty harsh POV issues with one or more persons that's descending into a pump-action revert war. Can't stick around for long. Could use the help. --Antrophica 09:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- This, as well. --Antrophica 09:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
That wasnt vandalism
editWhat I posted on the metal gear series isnt vandalism. Do some research and you'll find what I wrote true. Tell me how what I wrote is vandalism.
- No, it's not vandalism, just something that has been argued and resolved many times in the past, always with the same resolution. MGS isn't a Dreamcast game because opening up possibilities including unofficial emulation makes EVERY SINGLE 8- AND 16-BIT GAME EVER a Dreamcast game (and PC game and Xbox game and Mac game and so on). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Since you have this page on your watchlist, please see Here. -ZeroTalk 06:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
template
editThe template is missing the fighting style, as with all of the templates on the list page. I'm advocating we utilize the smaller CVG-designed infoboxs for list format due to the more compact design of its extrusion and multiple nature. The rewrite of Kyo Kusanagi is also complete. -ZeroTalk 05:25, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- The fighting style section is missing? That sounds like a glitch, and I
will fix ithave fixed it. - Right now, I see a complex, hand-made template in dozens of articles; this was what infobox templates were made for. I haven't placed it in the other KOF character articles yet because I can only do so much at a time. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- That makes two of us. If you would prefer, I'll change the original to template format from substed later. And could I ask you clean-up after me on Kyo Kusanagi...? I just made a re-read there's a few spelling and grammer errors. I'm heading to class; see me on the article's talkpage. -ZeroTalk 05:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- So, uh, is it a problem by you if I use {{Kofinfobox}} or not? I'm confused. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- I strongly dislike the fact it was lifted from the CVG design. I'm not certain why it isn't plausible to use the original template designed specfically for the series' characters. -ZeroTalk 11:12, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- What original template? I made this template because there wasn't any other. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- I strongly dislike the fact it was lifted from the CVG design. I'm not certain why it isn't plausible to use the original template designed specfically for the series' characters. -ZeroTalk 11:12, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- So, uh, is it a problem by you if I use {{Kofinfobox}} or not? I'm confused. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- That makes two of us. If you would prefer, I'll change the original to template format from substed later. And could I ask you clean-up after me on Kyo Kusanagi...? I just made a re-read there's a few spelling and grammer errors. I'm heading to class; see me on the article's talkpage. -ZeroTalk 05:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- I moved the original to my userspace here. You're certainly welcome to restructure it properly and remove it out to main template space. I fiddled with it before and achieved a extrusion for simiplicity but neglected to save my changes. -ZeroTalk 03:44, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Other than the wholly superfluous second image, that's exactly what I did to make {{Kofinfobox}}. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've prepared a brief sandbox edit here. I'm continuing to work on it as I type this. -ZeroTalk 04:16, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Heehee re the subject.
- As for the actual structure, what's the point? What's wrong with using {{Kofinfobox}}? They're almost exactly the same, except that {{Kofinfobox}} uses standard infobox styling and no superfluous second image. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:22, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well its a wiki. I'm strongly rooted in the use of both templates for different purposes. It is not as if I am asking you to do all of the template extrusions yourself. As with the variable nature of so many various designs possible, I tend to think that design is overused and doesn't draw attention. I don't venture out of the box too often, but I think its not a overly negative task to request we work together and bend on this.-ZeroTalk 04:32, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- It's not supposed to draw attention; this is an encyclopedia with a uniform style, not a series of disparate sites, all clamouring for attention.
- I ask again, what purpose does using different styling for different-styling's-sake serve? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:36, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well its a wiki. I'm strongly rooted in the use of both templates for different purposes. It is not as if I am asking you to do all of the template extrusions yourself. As with the variable nature of so many various designs possible, I tend to think that design is overused and doesn't draw attention. I don't venture out of the box too often, but I think its not a overly negative task to request we work together and bend on this.-ZeroTalk 04:32, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've prepared a brief sandbox edit here. I'm continuing to work on it as I type this. -ZeroTalk 04:16, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've completed the template syntax. Re-check your browser's cache for the talkpage. I'm going to insert the templates in the meantime. Hopefully I can complete A-Z before I depart for work this morning. -ZeroTalk 04:42, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- And it would be much appreciated if you could assist and insert the {{Kofinfobox}} in List of King of Fighters: Maximum Impact characters. It still utilizes the substed versions. -ZeroTalk 04:47, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Augh, don't use that template, please! It doesn't use standard infobox styling, it has two images for no reason, and it doesn't automatically pull empty fields! Please, take a look at how I've used {{Kofinfobox}} in Duck King and do that in any KOF articles. Please trust in my experience on this one. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:53, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Aiyiyi, you don't even name the fields! Please, PLEASE, don't use that infobox. It really isn't ready for prime-time. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:55, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- And it would be much appreciated if you could assist and insert the {{Kofinfobox}} in List of King of Fighters: Maximum Impact characters. It still utilizes the substed versions. -ZeroTalk 04:47, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Argh, in Angel (King of Fighters), you have two images in an article with two paragraphs of prose. Please, don't use this double-image, poorly-structured template. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:08, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well then please help me fix it. Take a trip down to the template and make the syntax modifications necessary. It would be most appreciated. -ZeroTalk 05:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Hopefully, my contribution to your talk page is worth the extra kilobytes. The following is a quote from user:megaman Zero's talk page (which has been removed by now, according to his edit summary he agrees with me, though). It refers to When are you going to discuss why and how the first template harms wikipedia?.
The first template (Kofinfobox) is built upon hiddenStructure (see Wikipedia:Don't use hiddenStructure). That's how it harms wikipedia. The proposed solution is hardly better, though, for it makes use of hiddenStructure, too. See Template:Infobox Arcade Game for a template that works exactly the way a KOF character template would have to work, only that it does not make use of hiddenStructure. --elias.hc 11:21, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yes dear Eliashc, we're well aware of Wikipedia:Don't use hiddenStructure. I mean, A Man In Black and I have only been established wikipedians for a mere year! But the hidden structure is not really germane to this argument. I'm a neatfreak, so I always suggest taking discussion to the relevant talk page. I've copied the conversation from my talk to the porposal page and discussion may resume there. -ZeroTalk 12:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- I'm well aware of the fact that hiddenStructure was not being discussed but what was being discussed is a major redesign of the template so why not once and for all solve that problem, too? --elias.hc 12:28, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- By the way, at the time of writing you have not copied my contribution to the discussion to the proposal page --elias.hc 12:33, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Augh. What a mess. I'm going to discuss this further at User talk:Megaman Zero/List of characters from King of Fighters proposal, and I suggest anyone else interested do so as well. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- I actually liked zero's template. What were all the changes for?--Dangerous-Boy 18:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Standard style and structure cleanup. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 20:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Now in GS deletion process
editSo I've begun the process of nominating and deleting some junk Golden Sun pages that I had listed on my user page for a while now, so feel free to cast a vote here if you're interested. Erik the Appreciator 01:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, kinda seems as though it's stuck at about five votes now... Maybe we should just redirect those pages like you were saying and bring this AFD to a close. What do you think? Erik the Appreciator 20:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Departure
editHi. Please don't consider you or actions having to do with my leaving of the site. I was never fustrated or angry during the course of our disagreement and I fully support your actions. Please continue your fine work at this encyclopedia in my abscense. I won't be present, but I'm rooting for you and all the rest of the editors here. -ZeroTalk 11:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Re: Your intro story
editFirstly I have to profess that I have absolutely no idea why I am writing this. I noticed you editing the Darth Vader article and after viewing your user page and reading your introductory dirge I felt the need (read curiosity) to ask you a question.
You talk of the difficulties you would have with matrimony, and I have to ask... if you found a woman who was in ever way your equal, who shared your same level of hygien, appearance (though definately feminine), weight, grooming rituals etc, etc, etc... could you ever love such a person? The reason I ask is not to insult, but because I am indeed fascinated with people who it may be plain to see are not the most beautiful in our world (Which I do not consider myself part of such an echilon) and whether they actually seek out those who are of similar quality or expect someone of better quality instead. You appear from your introduction to be a person of reality, who is not afraid to be honest about themselves which is why I believe you should take this in the manner it was written, in genuine interest in the response. Enigmatical 06:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- Uh. That's an insulting rant some troll left on my talk page, and I thought it was so funny I had to keep it. There's no greater meaning to it, really. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry you felt that way, it was certainly not trolling and definately not a rant. Appears my original assessment of you was incorrect, you have my appologies. Enigmatical 22:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- No problem, I guess. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
TfD No Notability
editDo you know who deleted the No Notability template prematurely with no notices, didn't close the TfD debate, and didn't reflect consensus? -- Chris Ccool2ax contrib. 13:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Someone who was enforcing CSD T1, I imagine. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 19:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I need help
editThere is a newish user called KMEG (talk · contribs · count) who has made around 70 edits to the page KMEG (all in the last few days). The page is now choc-a-block full of links to kmeg14.com. Do I report him for 3RR (even though he hasn't reverted anything) or do I warn him about spamming. I thought I should get advice from someone important to save myself from making a mistake. Your help would be helpful greatly appreciated in solving this. MichaelBillington 05:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
KOF list
editThey've started up again. Please see this. We've already explained this. These characters are not informative enough to warrent an article. -ZeroTalk 08:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Simishag
editUser Simishag continuously is claiming Bucsrsafe is me when he is not. Please warn Simishag. I am very upset he is wrongly accusing me. Please tell the other admins about this. It is frustrating. Hganesan 20:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)hganesan
Iloveminun
editI've just realised User:Iloveminun has been harassing you before me, what did you "do" to him? Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 11:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Deleted his copyvio images and junk templates. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks...
edit...for the deletion. youngamerican (talk) 13:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- No problem. If you need it undeleted for anything, just let me know. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 13:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
"Potential nightmare"
editInteresting, I guess my move to outright delete WP:OURS wasn't so far off then. Remember that policy was formulated by User:Rgulerdem a permanently banned and highly disruptive user. You might want to re-think your vote of keep. Netscott 19:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'd rather see it rejected by discussion than deleted by MFD. Bad ideas should be held up and dissected to make their flaws apparent. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 19:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ordinarliy I'd agree with you but in this case bad ideas proposed by bad editors (ie: permanently blocked ones) shouldn't need to be debated but should be candidates for speedy deletion outright. Netscott 19:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- You actually might want to comment over here as well. Netscott 19:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- I still stand by my comments above. I'd rather refute a bad idea than just delete it outright. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 19:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I'm actually inclined to see about there being a general policy concerning this type of thing as I imagine it is likely to come up again. Disruptive and permanently blocked editors shouldn't have the right via proxies to continue to edit on Wikipedia especially in terms of formulating policy. Thanks for the talk. Netscott 19:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, that sounds like an idea for a possibly useful policy proposal, I'd say. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 19:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy deleted under G5 (banned users can not start pages, even through proxies apparently). Cheers! Netscott 20:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, that sounds like an idea for a possibly useful policy proposal, I'd say. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 19:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I'm actually inclined to see about there being a general policy concerning this type of thing as I imagine it is likely to come up again. Disruptive and permanently blocked editors shouldn't have the right via proxies to continue to edit on Wikipedia especially in terms of formulating policy. Thanks for the talk. Netscott 19:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- I still stand by my comments above. I'd rather refute a bad idea than just delete it outright. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 19:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- You actually might want to comment over here as well. Netscott 19:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ordinarliy I'd agree with you but in this case bad ideas proposed by bad editors (ie: permanently blocked ones) shouldn't need to be debated but should be candidates for speedy deletion outright. Netscott 19:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, that we can't continue our discussion on WP:OURS. Unfortunately Netscotts smear campaign motivated by his personal vendetta [1] killed that proposal, before it could even be discussed. You'll probably see now, that "Wikilaywering" and "policy spirit" are merely terms, which allow admins to do almost anything they want. Raphael1 02:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, don't expect me to sympathize much, frankly. I wanted to kill it after discussing it. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well IMHO you deserve given credit even for that position. Raphael1 02:33, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- While we're linking to the WikiEn-I mailing list let's see who created WP:OURS (to better understand why it was speedy deleted) banned user Resid Gulerdem. Note that the original version of Resid's proposed policy as posted by himself was in fact deleted by the mailing list moderators twice off of the mailing and as a result this later quoted version is all that remains. Netscott 08:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Argue about this on your own time and talk pages. I don't feel like getting further involved. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 17:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry to have disturbed your talk page with this nonsense. Take it easy. Netscott 22:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Vandalism
editPlease semi-protect the Pokémon Portal, its being vandalized. I Love Minun (talk) 14:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Apology
editIm sorry for the trouble I caused you in the past. I thought you were a bad user then but then I realised the hard work that you did and appologize.
I Love Minun (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!
I Love Minun (talk) 15:20, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Hey, no problem. Everyone has some rough spots as a newbie; it happens. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 17:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- But I seriously need help, someones doing bad things all over Wikipedia and is blaming me, everyone is falling for it. I Love Minun (talk) 19:21, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know what to tell you. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Im working on a page full of evidence, I'll show you when im finished it. I Love Minun (talk) 15:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
lol Cultural references in Pokémon
editDo you believe now to be an appropriate time to slap {{subst:prod|Not notable. Arbitrary criteria. Wikipedia is not a indiscriminate collection of information.}} onto Cultural references in Pokémon? ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 08:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- If you want, I suppose. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 21:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
{Metal Gear Character}
editdone. -- Drini 23:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Userpage message
editWe-e-ell, that pretty much constituted the shock of my life! heh. Now I'm not asking you to change what you wrote or apologize, but I'm just hoping that someone like Jimbo Wales doesn't come along and relieve you of your adminship on account of uncivil language. (I'm concerned that someone might actually do that, as I've always liked your level-headedness and great editing work otherwise) Erik the Appreciator 18:49, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- Heehee. I'm tempted to leave it up, but I really should change that, huh. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- It'd be smart for sure, but I guess your point is that very long plot summaries are something to avoid like the plague. I admittedly have given articles like Golden Sun: The Lost Age story write-ups that aren’t exactly the image of brevity (though I’ve certainly tried to shorten it in the months after), so it actually kinda hit close to home. By the way, what was there previously has been enshrined here. Erik the Appreciator 00:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- It came mostly from some very frustrating efforts to try and get the scene-by-sceneplot summary out of Darth Vader, including a partial rewrite I forgot to save anywhere. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Wow, it's been vandalized three separate times already (and by two separate people at that). It's clearly riling people up and persuading them to dump their stuff onto your userpage, so unless that's the effect you want, I would advise changing it a bit. Erik the Appreciator 01:10, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- I dunno, I got a laugh out of "You are still in love with your gay boyfriend and you kiss him and you are gay!" but I really should change it. I meant to the other night. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:01, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Wow, it's been vandalized three separate times already (and by two separate people at that). It's clearly riling people up and persuading them to dump their stuff onto your userpage, so unless that's the effect you want, I would advise changing it a bit. Erik the Appreciator 01:10, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- It came mostly from some very frustrating efforts to try and get the scene-by-sceneplot summary out of Darth Vader, including a partial rewrite I forgot to save anywhere. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- It'd be smart for sure, but I guess your point is that very long plot summaries are something to avoid like the plague. I admittedly have given articles like Golden Sun: The Lost Age story write-ups that aren’t exactly the image of brevity (though I’ve certainly tried to shorten it in the months after), so it actually kinda hit close to home. By the way, what was there previously has been enshrined here. Erik the Appreciator 00:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Deleted link on Mario profile
editHi. I put the link to Spacepope4u's Mario series character guide on the Mario page. Can I ask why it was deleted? Kidicarus222 03:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Because it's of limited value as an external link and no value as a reference. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:33, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, then why was a site like the Mario Monster Compendiumn considered more appropriate? Kidicarus222 03:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- I have no idea; I haven't checked it. If you think it's inappropriate, feel free to remove it. If I get around to properly reviewing the links in Mario and I think it's inappropriate, I'll remove it. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, then why was a site like the Mario Monster Compendiumn considered more appropriate? Kidicarus222 03:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)