User:Redwolf24/Archive22

WP:MC/RFM

Glad to see someone taking a little charge, and keeping the tasks box updated. I much appreciate your request and will take it under consideration. -St|eve 03:04, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

K, I hope you return as I've reactivated the medcom and now every editor has a case assigned (except myself, I finished my mediation quickly) and I could use some of those of you on a leave to return. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:15, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Pop singer fancruft

I'm at my wit's end in trying to deal with the glut of heavily biased and infactual articles on Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, and several other pop singers. The editors' actions in making all of these articles have gone unchecked, and are establishing bad precedents that are steadily decreasing NPOV coverage of music in the WIkipedia. I have talked to one of them until I was blue in the face (and had wasted an entire Friday evening) to no avail; he thinks I'm "jealous" of "his" articles. What can be done about this, or is the matter truly a lost cause? --FuriousFreddy 04:26, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Nothing you really can do, but if you quit, they win... Redwolf24 (talk) 04:27, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah - just take a week break from those kind of articles. Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 04:33, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

But if I don't quit, and there's nothing I can do about...what's the point of not quitting? But if I do quit, I am (admittedly) letting them win, the floodgates are gonna burst open, and pretty soon it will be okay to have articles that read "OMIGODBRITNEYISTHEBESTSINGEREVER!!@$!$!$!#!!!!!" and such. Ack. Can we do some sort of policy-setting, something to bring this stuff in line? --FuriousFreddy 06:15, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Listen, think of it this way. I spend (or I guess spent since I'm on an self-imposed wikibreak from those pages right now) a lot of time cleaning up autism-related pages. Basically, the POV of those pages could get throttled to one side of the argument. There are several people who frequent these pages, some even from the organizations in question themselves! So, obviously there are going to be some bias here - and it can feel pretty lonely battling these people for a NPOV as the argument is so polarized and for the most part most people there are just trying to get publicity for thier organization etc. (they seem to think having a seperate page for thier organization is paramount... the same thing happens with original research too). It can be really hard dealing with those kind of people but hopefully over time you can reason with them... the important thing is to not let it degenerate into an edit war, otherwise its bad for everyone. As morbid as it sounds, the best way to deal with issues like this is to just sit back and edit occasionally... eventually you'll either be able to get some help from someone, or just outlast the most egregious POV pushers. You could try wikipedia things like mediation... but especially with the kind of people that frequent the autism-related pages etc. you may not get far. The important thing is to stay detached from it all - you can always run it in your userspace or on a local copy of a wiki too. It really is one of the big flaws in the system, so to speak, so you need to try to work around it, otherwise its just going to make you stressed for no good reason, really. Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 06:39, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

"Leave me a Message" box

Hey, I stole your "Leave me a Message" box, probably for the same reason you got it in the first place, because I'm welcoming newbies who might not know how to leave me a message otherwise. Let me know if you have a problem with this. (I left a message similar to this with Linuxbeak).

EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 04:32, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Nah its fine. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Jimmy James Johnson

Since my last post was left unanswered, I'm going to try again...

I was wondering why the entry of Jimmy James Johnson was deleted?

I know it's based on a rewritten news clipping, but isn't better to have something than nothing? How could it otherwise be improved? Now there's not even a history about what happened to the guy.

- And yes, I'm new to Wikipedia. So a simple "..." isn't enough to make me understand what I've done wrong...

My reason would have to be the fact that its a hoax. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply.

- I'm now wondering how you reached the conclusion that it is a hoax?

- Did you research the subject before?

Here's 'one' of the links relating to the person in question: http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,17368,00.html?fdnews

--Overone 03:27, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

OH! I thought this was someone else. When I saw the name it looked fake so that's why I assumed it was a hoax. here's the real reason I deleted it. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

mediation

Hi

I am currently giving a very light hand on Western Sahara. Cheers. Anthere 04:50, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Great to hear! Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Mediation and others

A few things:

1. The thing on mediation will be combined into this week's User:Ral315/News and notes, because I really don't have enough information to make it a stand-alone article. I would appreciate you looking at it and telling me if there were any mistakes or misinterpreted parts within the blurb itself.
2. Also, I've applied to join the mediation committee...I'm interested to hear your views on me joining the committee, good or bad.
3. Blank point to make it look like I have more to say than I really do.
4. ???
5. Profit

Ral315 W_S 07:23, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Replied at page. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

"Social Technology"

Dear friend,

May I please know why was my article “Social Technology” deleted? I am very new to this web publishing. After the debate on original content, I had altered the article to suit the needs of Wikipedia.

I hope to write many more articles for Wikipedia, so I need really to understand this.

Best regards, Nirupma Kapoor neeray 10:50, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

We have a system at wikipedia, if editors don't feel an article is particularly good, or on a notable subject, it is sent to AfD where people debate. If 2/3 or more of the editors say to delete, the article is deleted. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Findology

Why was "Findology" deleted again. The first time, I understand. I just wasn't aware of what should and shouldn't be on Wikipedia. But why this time? We didn't even put that information up and it obviously had no advertising type wording. You can contact me at aaron@findology.com. Thanks.

Cause it was voted as such. Spam probably. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi new user trying to fix a misnamed page

Hi there, I've been trying to move the page Edgar Varese because it is spelled wrong, the composer was called Edgard with a d at the end. However I can't because the page with the correct name exists as a redirect to the mis-spelled one. I don't know how to get round this. The whole contents of Edgar Varese should be under the title Edgard Varese, and there should be no page called Edgar Varese as there was no such person.

I hope you are now as worked up as I am and as keen to see justice done. The poor man spent his whole life correcting the spelling, and now he's in the wrong place after his death. Dammit. And he was teh father of 20th century music, his influence is in almost everything you hear.

Best regards Robert Deas

I'll fix it for you, you are unable to do as such as you are not an admin, which you have to be to move to existing pages. I'll do so now, Redwolf24 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza Project

Hi there Redwolf24, Im Moe Epsilon. I am here to talk to you about the Esperanza Project. I just added myself to the list of members today and to the spamlist so I can get updates from the project. I just wanted to know, what can I do? Usually I could go to the project page or the project's talk page and find out whats going on and how I could help. Since you are the leader of the group, determined by the first few comments on the talk page, please give me some idea as to what to help with. Or, by the last comment on the talk page, should I go to Essjay so he could help me? Drop me a line on my talk page so we can discuss this matter. Later!

PS. I fixed the little problem above with Edgard Varèse.

— Moe ε 23:04, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Crap! I forgot to do that because of someone else's comment on this page who I was busy with... Thanks for the Edgard fix. I am no longer the leader of Esperanza, I have passed the buck to my good friend Essjay. I am too busy with other things at wikipedia, and if I do too much I may just burn out. Esperanza, there's not too much you can do to help, as there's not too much we need to do. You can feel free to comment at WP:ESP/P's talk page on what you think is good and what you think is bad. Stay in touch. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: MedCom Signpost

OK, that's fine with me. They've done a look for the MedCom, and I appreciate that; it's just that I felt that that subject was straying from the topic of the blurb. News and notes is intended to be concise, short paragraphs, and I really didn't see how WP:TINMC added to the blurb and didn't think it was relevant. But I don't mind either way — however, the final decision should rest with Ral, as 1) he wrote the article and 2) he's the editor-in-chief. Thanks, though! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W_S 23:06, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

No prob. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I copyedited and reworded it somewhat. I agree now that TINMC is relevant; the way Ral worded it did not contribute to the topic, but the current version looks fine. In the future, you may want to save Ral the trouble and write the article yourself. :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W_S 23:13, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Fair use (last one, I promise)

Heya, I've removed the last few not-quite-fair-use images from your user page and status template, hope you don't mind. You might want to rephrase your status template (or even better, find a free groundskeeper willy image if such a beast exists), as it's a bit odd without the image. --fvw* 00:23, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I missed the Fonzie pic. As for the McCondom it doesn't say fair use, and it looks like an amateur photograph, so chances are its GFDL. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Oops, right you are about McCondom, though I don't know how long that will last without a source. Thanks for your understanding. --fvw* 00:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Need Your Help

I need u to place Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pemberton Avenue into the deletion log. Im an AOL user and one of those IP - 205.188.116.196 got blocked for a while few days I think so I cant place that in for now but still could edit everything else U are one person I trust and I need u to do me that favor. Ty --JAranda | yeah 00:23, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Will do so. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Mechanics of Deletion Review

Hi. You were involved in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Votes for undeletion#The scope of VfU which looked to establish a Deletion Review process in place of VfU. There is now a discussion about how we might construct the mechanics of such a process. The current proposal suggests that debates be relisted on AfD if there is a majority of editors wanting to overturn the debate (usually on procedural grounds) and that the alternative result be implemented if it is supported by three-quarters of editors. Please call by Wikipedia talk:Votes for undeletion/Deletion review proposal when you can to discuss. Thanks. -Splash^talk 02:06, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, can't think of anything to suggest. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Being A Good Editor

Hey, I as you could possibly read from my userpage, am trying to be a good editor. From what you can see if you would care to look do you think I'm a pretty good editor, I think I'm an okay editor. I'm just trying to be better, like right now I'm beginning to write articles again, like I used to. I'm just wondering what you think of me, since I think of you as like "the big great editor". Private Butcher 02:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Also if you could give me a few tips on how to be a better editor, since I know I'm just an okay editor. That would be helpful, thanks. Private Butcher 02:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, I honestly haven't seen Red edit that much so I can't say too much of him as an editor, but he's a fantastic admin! Basically, you should try to get one article as good as you can over a couple of weeks, then send it to peer review (WP:PR). After a couple weeks to a month there when you think its ready send it to FAC (WP:FAC) - you'll get some harsh, but accurate and quite helpful criticism on how to improve your articles there and often at peer review. Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 02:50, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I'd second those comments, and remember to be kind to all users. Also, try to follow WP:1RR. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:55, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I'm going to take your advice. Private Butcher 03:08, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Your Rogue Op Adminship Was Eaten By A Bear!

Ashida Kim Was Eaten By A Bear!

I couldn't figure out which barnstar to give you for your Ashida Kim blockage, so I figured -- when in doubt, go with hungry bears... Karmafist 04:33, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Ah no, I never blocked that account, I blocked an anonymous IP of his for 61 years for endangering Jimbo. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:34, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Hey, I blocked one of those accounts yesterday, and hand restored 1001 edits to Jimbo's page so the info wouldn't be in the history... -- Essjay · Talk 04:42, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

There, now I blocked him indefinitely. I am so rouge. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

But what to do about the Ashida Kim article? It still has all the info there! Shall it be speedied? -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] ^{[[additions | e-mail]]} _{04:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)}

Why would you speedy the article in its current version? The only reason I can think of is if it is a hoax. But then, the diffs can be deleted, can't they? Titoxd^(?!?) 04:53, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

BartCop

Would you also agree that this: [[1]] is vandalism? Can nothing be done to prevent this anon user OR sockpuppet, whichever, from popping in and vandalizing legitimate edits? Isn't the user guilty of the "3RR" rule? Curious..... Lone Odessan 07:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

There is discussion on the talk page over whether the addition is accurate or not. Until consensus develops over whether it is a legitimate addition or not, it should not be labeled as vandalism. It may, however, be removed to the talk page for continued discussion, and if it is continually re-added, the article can be locked. The three revert rule applies equally to all, but only applies to more than three reverts in a twenty-four hour period; that IP has only made three additions in a twenty four hour period, thus unless the information is removed and re-added in the next twelve hours or so, no 3RR will have occurred. Be aware, however, that since the text is under consideration (and thus not vandalism), if you remove it more than three times in twenty four hours, you will be equally guilty of 3RR. There are already three administrators in on the discussion: BMIComp, *fvw, & Hall Monitor, and I suggest you leave the administrative actions (3RR blocks, page protection) to them. -- Essjay · Talk 14:40, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Can we nominate?

Your Eminence,Cardinal of the Wiki-Catholic church,I have decided that we nominate Kappa as an admin.He or she is a really great helper to all and a good example.Please consider this offer.Tdxiang 11:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Kappa had a previous RfA in June that ended in no consensus, and one on September 29th that he declined; be sure to get his consent before nominating him. -- Essjay · Talk 14:11, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

closed discussions

Hey, do you have the link for any policy on closed discussions for Afd and such? Having an issue with another admin wanting to change a closed discussion. Dont' have time for an edit war, especially with another admin (much less think its worth it). Just couldn't find anything covering it, thought I read it before though. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 19:42, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Closures that you don't agree with go to WP:VfU. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Yea, I know about VfU :) thanks. Actually I meant policy on other users editing previously closed discussions. But it's not a big deal now, I just needed info for future occurences. ∞Who?¿? 00:20, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Questions answered

As you requested, I've answered the questions in my RfA, so if you'd like to read my answers and change your Neutral vote to a Support or an Oppose, I'd appreciate it! (And if you have any additional questions for me, I'd be happy to answer.) - Brian Kendig 21:41, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Unblock

Could u Unblock 205.188.117.7 its a AOL IP number and one of the 2 Im using now so i cant edit into late tommorrow. --JAranda | yeah 00:13, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Unblocked. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:18, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Ty I need to get out of AOL so I wont get that again :) --JAranda | yeah 00:20, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I filled it out :)

The nomination was quite the shock! I mentioned how long I was actively editing for full disclosure... I hope you don't mind :\. Thanks! Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 00:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Posted at RfA. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:45, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen John Sutton

Heya, could it be you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen John Sutton without deleting the article in question, or was it recreated and am I misreading the deletion log? --fvw* 01:51, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I missed one! Taken care of. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:56, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! While you're being helpful, could you have a look at List of Australians in international prisons too, a new user (same one as the author of the page you just created but logged in I think) insists on inserting an external link to a campaign site there. --fvw* 02:02, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Bloody hell, I see I've broken the 3RR there, for shame. Feel free to enforce a 24h wikibreak if you feel it's appropriate. --fvw* 02:03, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Ohnoes!!! But yep, its fair. Both of you take a break :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:08, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

GNAA getting vfded again!!

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gay_Nigger_Association_of_America. :) Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 03:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

So do you think it will survive ;)? Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 03:20, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Haha! If anything all these AfD's have gotten new members for them. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:34, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Ehm, I'm assuming it wasn't a good faith nomination, considering the username (User:Dick Stalman=Richard M. Stallman). --fvw* 03:45, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

That is, that's the username. I'm not claiming it was actually RMS nominating it. --fvw* 03:45, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't think that the username was referring to that, as Richard M. Stallman isn't too famous, and it doesn't seem like a rare name. However I DO think it was a bad faith nom. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:47, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

You don't? GNAA=slashdot trolls. One of slashdot's strong focuses is linux. I think we've had a few vandal/troll accounts named after him before. --fvw* 03:52, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

arbcom

Are you sure you want to run for arbcom? I mean you're the chair of the mediation comittee and so much other stuff! Just don't want you to get overloaded :). You have my support of course :). Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 03:49, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, that's probably going to overload you. On other news, if you're going to run for Esperanza's Advisory Committee, you might want to add your name to the list, because it's not there anymore (it was removed when you crossed it out). Titoxd^(?!?) 04:56, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm not burning out any time soon. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

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I saw your name when I was reading about admins and reading on Wikipedia policy and procedures. Can I go to you for questions when I want to ask something about policy etc.? --Shelburne Kismaayo 03:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

You bet. Or me, as well. --Maru (talk) 04:13, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Stephen Sutton article

Hi Redwolf24,

Thank you for your assistance earlier today.

I am now composing a proper article for Stephen John Sutton. I have read the guidelines for 'your first Wikipedia entry.'

I noticed that some other people have attempted to make an entry about Sutton in the past, but these articles were deleted. I am unable to see what was written in the past. I do not wish to make the same mistakes.

Sutton is noteworthy because it is probable that he was targeted to become an unwitting drug mule because of a mental impairment. He had a brain tumour removed at age 15 which left him with a simple and over-trusting nature. He has an inordinate desire to please others and was known to go to unusual lengths in this pursuit. Sutton was working in Sydney, Australia and it is believed he met a Peruvian girl at his place of employ. Stephen wound up in Peru, living with the Peruvian girl and her family. Stephen sent a letter to his sister in Australia indicating that he was in Peru and that the girl's family were treating him well. On 4 September 2003, Stephen was arrested in Argentina (with no drugs in his possession), and was charged with drug trafficking. His sister found out about the arrest through an Australian TV news report. Australian consular officials (Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade - DFAT) have since been difficult and evasive with his family in Australia. DFAT have not provided appropriate medical care and legal asistance to Stephen. He is known to have medical problems which require urgent care.

Is this enough justification for a Wikipedia entry? Am I on the right track?

Thanks again for your assistance. --Diana Elgar 05:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I'd say it is IMO. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi again Redwolf24, thanks for your help on this matter. Please visit the Stephen John Sutton entry. There are some bullies now trying to have my entry deleted. One of them, who identifies as "Robert Frost" of a non-existent organisation he calls "OSE Prisoners Dispute Services U.K." is posting from IP address 144.131.198.139. This IP is assigned to Telstra in Brisbane, Australia, which happens to be the location of Kay Danes and Tony Fox of Foreign Prisoner Support Services (FPSS). FPSS is also the organisation which has been spamming their URL (http://foreignprisoners.com) all over the List of Australians in international prisons entry. Please see the edit made by "Robert Frost" at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Australians_in_international_prisons&diff=24934445&oldid=24227584 Thanks again, --Diana Elgar 00:43, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi!

hi redwolf24 umm..well, first, I'm a new user. I came across your userpage somehow, and just decided to write to you. Well, actually the thing is that, I have just written my first article..on Igor Andreev..and I just wanted someone to look at it and let me know if I've gone about the right way. I'll be really obliged if you could look at the page once. Thanks a ton! --Aabha R 14:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

It is pretty good; I fixed up one or two stylistic problems, but other than that it looks good to me. Well done. (BTW: you should probably set up a user page. Red links make people nervous and a wee bit suspicious.) --Maru (talk) 15:11, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for having a look, and replying. Appreciate it! And thanks for the tip about the user page! Aabha R 19:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Maru for taking that. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Chris Floyd

hi. it looks like you did a move

04:06, 3 October 2005 Redwolf24 m (Chris Floyd - Empire Burlesque moved to Chris Floyd)

the move had been requested but the article's creator (who also requested the move) went ahead and made a new article at Chris Floyd that, in our opinions, had looked much better. is there any way to get that version back? Nateji77 16:25, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I restored the deletion, so weed through the history and find it. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)