User:Choess/Offices

These offices have mostly become honorary. This list is assembled to ascertain (for our purposes) at what point the office is to be treated as honorary.

Great Offices of State edit

Great Serjeanties edit

Stewards edit

~~Lord High Steward (vacant except for trials of peers and coronations since 1421)~~ not honorary before 1421, but I don't think we're putting it in succession boxes after 1421 anyway – ugen64
High Steward of Scotland
Lord High Steward of Ireland

Chamberlains edit

Constables edit

~~Lord High Constable (vacant except for coronations since 1521)~~ again, not honorary until 1521, after which it doesn't go in succession boxes anyway – ugen64
Lord High Constable of Scotland
Constable of Ireland (Duke of Leinster High Constable at Victoria's coronation)

Marshals edit

Earl Marshal I believe at some point this office was political – ugen64
Earl Marischal
Knight Marischal
Marshal of Ireland

Admirals edit

~~Lord High Admiral (honorary since 1689)~~ - this was never fully honorary. Even the Duke of Clarence had real authority when he held this office in the early 19th century, even if most of it went to his committee. john k 23:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Lord High Admiral of Scotland (abolished 1707)

Other Great Offices edit

Chancery and Seals edit

~~Lord Chancellor~~ (not honorary)
- Lord Keeper of the Great Seal just another title for "Lord Chancellor" - don't think it should be treated any differently – ugen64
~~Lord Chancellor of Scotland~~ (abolished 1707)
- Keeper of the Great Seal of Scotland
~~Lord Chancellor of Ireland~~ (abolished 1922)
~~Lord Privy Seal~~

National offices edit

Armour-Bearer
Bearer of the National Flag of Scotland
Captain-General of the Royal Company of Archers
~~Captain of the Gentlemen-at-Arms (honorary since 1660?)~~
~~Captain of the Yeomen of the Guard (honorary since 1743?)~~
Gold Stick and Silver Stick
~~Governor General (honorary since the Balfour Declaration of 1926?)~~ not honorary, I think. He has real powers, even if he doesn't use them on his own behalf. john k 23:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Groom of the Robes
Groom of the Stole (abolished 1901)
Justice in Eyre (honorary since 1660, or perhaps 1670)
Lady of the Bedchamber
Lord Clerk Register (honorary since 1806)
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland honorary after the mid-19th century, when the Chief Secretary became more powerful than him - still political though – ugen64
Lord of the Bedchamber
Lord Steward (honorary since 1782?) the Lord Steward was a partisan position in the Government until the 1920s. As such, I think it should be considered a political office until that point. john k 23:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
~~Master of the Buckhounds~~ Until its abolition, this was a political office, even if one that had no specific duties. john k 23:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Master of the Horse Like the Lord Steward, a political position until the 1920s john k 23:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Master of the Revels (England; we don't have a sep. article on Scotland)
Mistress of the Robes
Rear-Admiral of the United Kingdom
Vice-Admiral of the United Kingdom

Sub-national offices edit

~~Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster~~ it's a sinecure but I think it counts as a political office – ugen64 [definitely a political office. Any office which give its holder a position in the Government is not honorary. john k 23:41, 23 March 2006 (UTC)]
Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports
Lord Warden of the Stannaries (since 1753?)

County offices edit

Custos Rotulorum
Lord Lieutenant (honorary since 1660?) does this require succession boxes at all? – ugen64
Vice-Admiral of the Coast

Governors and constables edit

Great Britain edit

Governor of Berwick-upon-Tweed (and Holy Island) (also a lieutnant-governor, town major, and town adjutant)
Governor of Blackness Castle
Governor of Calshot Castle
Governor of Carlisle (also a lieutenant-governor and town major)
Governor of Chester (also a lieutenant-governor)
Governor of Darmouth (also a fort major)
Governor of Dumbarton Castle (also a lieutenant-governor)
Governor of Edinburgh Castle (also a lieutenant-governor and fort major)
Governor of Gravesend and Tilbury Fort (sometimes West Tilbury) (also a lieutenant-governor and fort major)
Governor of Guernsey (also a lieutenant-governor and fort major and adjutant)
Governor of Kingston-upon-Hull (also a lieutenant-governor and town major)
Governor of Hurst Castle
Governor of Inverness (or Fort George and Fort Augustus) (deputy governors for both; fort major and adjutant for Fort George, fort adjutant for Fort Augustus)
Governor of Jersey (also a lieutenant-governor and fort major and adjutant)
Governor of Landguard Fort (also a lieutenant-governor)
Keeper of St. Mawes (or captain; also a deputy governor)
Governor of Pendennis Castle (also a lieutenant-governor)
Governor of Plymouth (also a lieutenant-governor and fort major)
Governor of Portland Castle
Governor of Portsmouth (also a lieutenant-governor, town major, and town adjutant)
Governor of Scarborough Castle
Governor of the Scilly Isles (also a lieutenant-governor)
Governor of Sheerness (Fort, and the Isle of Sheppey) (also a lieutenant-governor and fort major)
Deputy Governor of Southsea Castle
Governor of Stirling Castle (also a deputy governor and major)
Governor of Tynemouth Castle (also spelled Tinmouth and Tynmouth, and Cliff Fort) (also a lieutenant-governor)
Constable of the Tower (also a lieutenant, deputy lieutenant, and major)
Governor of Upnor Castle
Governor of the Isle of Wight (also a lieutenant-governor; captains of Sandown Fort, Yarmouth Castle, Carrisbrook Castle, and Cowes Castle)
- Governor of Cowes Castle
Governor of Fort William (also a lieutenant-governor)
Constable and Governor of Windsor Castle
Governor of North Yarmouth
Governor of Chelsea Hospital (also a lieutenant-governor)
Governor of the Royal Military College

Great Britain (pre-1821) edit

Ireland edit

Town Major of Belfast
Governor of Carrickfergus
Governor of Charlemont
Governor of Cork (also a lieutenant-governor and town major)
Town Major of Dublin
Governor of Duncannon (Fort) (also a fort major)
Governor of Galway (also a fort major)
Governor of Kinsale (also a lieutenant-governor and fort major)
Governor of Limerick (also a town major)
Governor of Londonderry and Culmore (also a town major for Londonderry)
Fort Major of New Geneva
Governor of Ross Castle

Ireland pre-1821 edit

Colonies edit

Governor of Quebec (also a lieutenant-governor and town major)
Town Major of Montreal
Town Major of New Brunswick
Town Adjutant of Cape Breton
Town Major of Prince Edward Island
Lieutenant Governor of St. John's (also a fort major)
Lieutenant Governor of Placentia
Governor of Gibraltar (also a lieutenant-governor, town major and town adjutant)