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Proposal: don't default to preloading with {{tasks}}Edit

Unless the parameter nopreload is explicitly set to yes, then a newly created todo list is preloaded with a blank {{tasks}} template. As a first-time todo user, I was confused about how to proceed from here. A few issues that contributed to my confusion/dissatisfaction:

  • The template docs for {{to do}} don't mention {{tasks}} (other than a link provided under "See also" at the bottom without explanation). All the examples shown at {{to do}} use 'vanilla' formatting, rather than {{tasks}}.
  • I found the meaning of the many parameters for {{tasks}} (requests, assess, category, citations, fac, far, flc, fsc, gan, gar...) were not self-explanatory. The preloaded template didn't include any placeholder values or html comments hinting at how to use the parameters. The documentation at the {{tasks}} page is also not great.
  • I was trying to create a todo list for an article, as described at the WP:TODO information page. But I eventually came to the understanding that most of the fields of {{tasks}} are intended for WikiProjects, not individual pages. e.g. the requests field, which is supposed to relate to article requests.

Here's a comment from another editor in 2016 who shared my frustration.

I've reviewed a random sample of pages in Category:Wikipedia pages with to-do lists. Of articles that use to-do lists (not counting articles that are in this category because of a WikiProject banner that transcludes the project todo list), it seems like the majority do not use {{tasks}}. (Talk:Aloha shirt is one of the few examples I could find that did, and it's interesting to note that editor misunderstood the "requests" field, using it to mention a request for new photos).

I'd like to propose no longer defaulting this preload behaviour on. I imagine that most users of this template are applying it to talk pages for mainspace articles, not WikiProjects. And as I've outlined above, I think {{tasks}} preloading is more confusing than helpful for articles.

Various implementation options include:

  1. only preload if nopreload is explicitly set to no
  2. deprecate nopreload and add a preload with opposite semantics which defaults to no
  3. get rid of preloading behaviour altogether

I would be fine with any of these options. Colin M (talk) 21:20, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Proposed changes to {{refideas}}Edit

There is a proposal to change the behavior of {{refideas}} to make the content collapsible. Interested editors are invited to give feedback on the talk page. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 17:58, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

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