Template:Did you know nominations/Wär Gott nicht mit uns diese Zeit, BWV 14

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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 22:44, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Wär Gott nicht mit uns diese Zeit, BWV 14

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• ... that in Bach's mature 1735 chorale cantata Wär Gott nicht mit uns diese Zeit, BWV 14, the cantus firmus of Luther's hymn is played by horn and oboes, while the voices perform a counter-fugue?

• Reviewed: Herta Feely
• Comment: for the (rare) fourth Sunday after Epiphany, 29 January, good on 30 January, date of premiere, or between 28 January and 3 February

Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 11:32, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

• This looks ok to me. I think it meets all the criteria laid out in the template, but as this is my first review, I'm going to ask a colleague to check behind me. LadyofShalott 20:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• That's a saucy remark, Lady. I'd say it looks good. Drmies (talk) 01:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
• Anyway, the review looks good too. I checked for 5x expansion, which is easily met (discarding, in both versions, the Recordings sections etc). I am looking at the sources also, but I do have a question (please see the relevant edit summary in the history): the title for Wolff strikes me as odd, and perhaps this should be cited as a chapter in a book or so, with a chapter title and J.S. Bach Cantatas Vol. 20 for the book title. Please look at that; if that's cleared up then the "tick" is a formality. Gerda, you've written so many of these--is this "Bach" person important in any way? I didn't see him/her nominated at the Grammy's in the last few years. Drmies (talk) 01:37, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

• Wolff wrote the liner notes on the Koopman recordings of the complete extant cantatas. One of my early DYK: Klaus Mertens, "... that within ten years bass singer Klaus Mertens recorded all vocal works of Johann Sebastian Bach with the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra & Choir?" Wolff also wrote books on the subject, I quote the liner notes because of easy access. I don't think the liner notes are exact quotes from a book. I just finished a list on the cantatas, translated from German, which I linked in the hook, perhaps answering your "unanswerable" question. You may also follow the question on Wikipedia's 10th birthday: "... that it took more than half a century to complete the Neue Bach-Ausgabe, the second edition of the collected works of Johann Sebastian Bach?" BTW, the day of the premiere of BWV 14 is today, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:48, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Article looks good. Drmies and Gerda can continue to discuss on the article talkpage if needbe. LadyofShalott 15:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)