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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Yoninah (talk) 21:45, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Close paraphrasing

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The vulture and the little girl edit

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  • ...that in 1993, Kevin Carter clicked photo of a famine-stricken African toddler while a vulture lurked her so that it can eat her. Fate of the child still unknown & Carter committed suicide in 1994?

Created by AKS.9955 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:07, 2 September 2016 (UTC).

 • Some issues found.

    • ✓ This article is new and was created on 18:50, 01 September 2016 (UTC)
    • ✓ This article meets the DYK criteria at 3257 characters
    • ✗ Paragraphs [5] (Three ... child.) in this article lack a citation.
    • ✓ This article has no outstanding maintenance tags
    • ? A copyright violation is suspected by an automated tool, with 52.8% confidence. (confirm)
      • Note to reviewers: There is low confidence in this automated metric, please manually verify that there is no copyright infringement or close paraphrasing. Note that this number may be inflated due to cited quotes and titles which do not constitute a copyright violation.

 • Some overall issues detected

Automatically reviewed by DYKReviewBot. This is not a substitute for a human review. Please report any issues with the bot. --DYKReviewBot (report bugs) 18:04, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

  • Comment for bot review: All paragraphs are properly cited. Why bot reported lack of citation was the use of quotes. Two citations are provided at the end of quote. There is no copyright violation since the possible violation reported is the quotation, which is presented verbatim. As far as the picture is concerned, human review is required if the DYK can be counted as "another article". Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 04:15, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment Hook makes little sense, and the article needs significant copyediting too. Edwardx (talk) 19:19, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Reply. Edwardx I think the hook is very clear and self-explanatory. Please suggest ALT 1 if you are not clear with the hook. Also, why copyedit? Whats wrong with the prose? Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 08:27, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment. Edwardx, are you reviewing this DYK or just made an observation? Please clarify because another reviewer will not review this DYK assuming you are reviewing this entry. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 08:29, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Just commenting. ALT1 added. Edwardx (talk) 11:39, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your suggestion. Since this was just a comment, full review of this DYK has to be done by another user. Cheers, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 12:25, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Copyedited ALT1, and struck ALT0 as unintelligible. EEng 07:19, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks E, are you reviewing this DYK? If yes then is there anything else that needs to be done? What is the status of this DYK, pass of hold? Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 07:23, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, like EdwardX I'm just passing through. Be patient -- reviews sometimes take weeks. EEng 07:47, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Full review needed by human reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:37, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
  • This article is new enough and long enough. The image has a fair use rationale and I believe that precludes it from appearing on the front page. ALT1 is cited inline, and I have added ALT1b so as to better relate the date of the suicide to the incident. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. The article does not currently need copyediting in my opinion. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:41, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
  • There is close paraphrasing from several sources.
  • Source: Carter said he waited about 20 minutes, hoping that the vulture would spread its wings.
  • Article: waited for 20 minutes hoping that the vulture would spread its wings
  • Source: (The parents of the girl were busy taking food from the same UN plane Carter took to Ayod).
  • Article: The parents of the girl were busy taking food from the same United Nations plane on which Carter had flown into Ayod.
  • Source: editor's note saying the girl had enough strength to walk away from the vulture, but that her ultimate fate was unknown.
  • Article: in which the editor mentioned that although the girl had had enough strength to walk away from the vulture, her ultimate fate was unknown
  • Source: Carter came under criticism for not helping the girl.
  • Article: Carter came under criticism for not helping the child
  • Source: To get the two in focus, Carter approached the scene very slowly so as not to scare the vulture away
  • Article: To get both into the focus and not to scare the vulture, Carter approached the scene very slowly
  • Source: Carter estimated that there were twenty people per hour dying at the food center. The child was not unique.
  • Article: Carter had also estimated that people were dying at the rate of twenty per hour at the food center and that the girl and her condition were not unique.
  • Yoninah (talk) 21:25, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
  • While half of the above have been addressed, half have not, and remain in the article well over two weeks after this was pointed out; the talk-page notification has since been archived. Marking for closure; close paraphrasing is a very serious matter, and should have been comprehensively addressed right away. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:46, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
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