Template:Did you know nominations/The Chicago Lincoln
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 11:13, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
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The Chicago Lincoln edit
... that The Chicago Lincoln statue was moved from its original location because the intersection was considered one of the most dangerous in Chicago?- ALT1: ... that The Chicago Lincoln statue (pictured) was once located in a three-way intersection considered to be one of the most dangerous in Chicago?
- Reviewed: Nørreballe
- Comment: article was drafted in userspace on 2 July 2013; moved to mainspace on 3 July 2013.
Created by I Jethrobot (talk). Self nominated at 02:51, 4 July 2013 (UTC).
Length, date, hook's ref verified. Copyvio check doesn't show problem sentences. Spotcheck of 2 refs doesn't show close paraphrasing issues. All refs appear to be RS. All non-lede paragraphs have at least 1 ref. Interesting hook; its length is fine. QPQ done. GTG. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
First, the article says where the statue used to be, but not where it is now or when it was moved. The sources have that information, and the article needs to. Second, there appears to be a bit of original research in the final paragraph, and the cited source does not contain information that is given here. In particular, I don't see where the Smithsonian page on the statue explains why the "Treatment urgent" designation is given; while it does say that the pictures were taken prior to graffiti being added, it doesn't say that the graffiti is why treatment is so urgent; to combine the two is WP:SYNTH, especially as many other things can happen to outdoor statuary that could cause an urgent need of treatment, and could easily be a combination of factors. A different source entirely is the one that states the treatment was subsequently done (and when). Finally, I'd like to see an ALT hook proposed (please don't edit the original one) that makes it clear that the statue was in the middle of a three-street intersection; right now, it's still in Lincoln Square, but not with streets on all three sides. (If I'm reading Google Maps street view correctly, it's on the northwest corner of Western and Lawrence in front of the Walgreens, though I don't think the source gives the corner along with the Walgreens info. They've certainly rerouted Lincoln so it no longer directly intersects with Western and Lawrence at that corner; I imagine it's much safer now.) BlueMoonset (talk) 18:57, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- I've added its current location and updated the treatment details. As for the intersection details, I can understand the need for specificity in the hook regarding the three-way intersection. IMO, that corner doesn't exactly scream "typical two-way intersection," but it's not exactly a three-way intersection anymore either. (It's just plain weird, though it is certainly safer.) I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 20:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
I've made enough changes to the article that I think another reviewer needs to do the final sign-off on the new ALT1 hook, though I definitely think it's an improvement on the original (which I have struck). BlueMoonset (talk) 00:52, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
