Template:Did you know nominations/Sogenanntes Linksradikales Blasorchester

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 13:22, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Sogenanntes Linksradikales Blasorchester

  • Reviewed: Precious Legacy
  • Comment: Sorry, I was sure I nominated yesterday, but was probably interrupted and never picked it up.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 17:16, 28 July 2019 (UTC).

User:The Rambling Man is welcome to review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Since TRM hasn't responded yet and mainly to help out the backlog over at the WT:DYK unreviewed noms section, I'll be doing a review for now (though he is still free to give comments). The article meets length and creation requirements, no close paraphrasing has been found, I am assuming good faith for the German language sources, the hook is interesting, and a QPQ has been one. There are currently a number of concerns that prevent me from giving the tick at this time, however. Firstly, the sentence mentioning "so-called left-radical wind band" does not have a footnote, nor does the sentence about their performances at anti-nuclear events. Secondly, at 193 characters, the hook may need to be shortened per WP:DYKHOOK and WP:DYKSG#J8; @The Rambling Man: could you suggest a possible shorter form of the original hook, if that would be possible? Thirdly, there is no reference provided for the Members table. Finally, just a suggestion and not an issue (so this won't prevent approval), but for musical bands, it's more common to use the word "disband" instead of "dissolved" so it might be a good idea to use that wording instead. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:40, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the review, and you seem not to know anything about arbitration enforcement, - keep your innocence. If TRm added a single helpful comment he could be blocked for violating an arbitration restriction. It has just happened to Ritchie. Will look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:15, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
The translation of the name is my own, how could I make a footnote? I repeated ref Glandien a few times. Their name is long, which makes the hook long, but I'd miss any of the three things mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
One option, although I'm not sure if you'd like it, would be to omit the name of the group and just pipe it using a shorter phrase. Like for example, instead of ... that the "so-called left-radical wind band" Sogenanntes Linksradikales Blasorchester played, it could instead say ... that a "so-called left-radical wind band" played or wording to that effect. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:29, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
You might have guessed that I don't like it ;) - The name is a program and provides the German flavour. Without it, it could be anywhere. I'd rather drop to try to translate:
ALT1: ... that the Sogenanntes Linksradikales Blasorchester wind band played at demonstrations against nuclear power and far-right politics, and at the Berliner Philharmonie?
ALT1 would have been fine to me (although I very much preferred the original hook), my main concern is that there's no explicit mention of "far-right" anywhere in the article, nor are such beliefs discussed as far as I can tell. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:09, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
I added a note explaining "Rock gegen Rechts" (Rock against Right), in the German article "ist ein unregelmäßig wiederholtes Motto von Konzertveranstaltungen gegen Rechtsextremismus" = a --- motto of concerts against extreme right nationalism, as in article Far-right politics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
  • The article looks better now. I'll try to finish the review by the end of the week. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:32, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

I think the article is almost good to go now, I'd just suggest deleting the "so-called" part from the article body and just leaving it for the lede, there's really no need to mention it twice. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:45, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

done --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Done. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:35, 2 September 2019 (UTC)