- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 12:52, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
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Shoshin
- ... that Shoshin is a Zen Buddhist term that means having a "beginner's mind"? Source: https://www.kinfolk.com/word-shoshin/ Quote: "Meaning: For Zen Buddhists, the word shoshin (which in secular parlance means “innocence” or “inexperience”) refers to a beginner’s mind"
- ALT1: ... that Shoshin is a Zen Buddhist term that means having a "beginner's mind", even when doing things that one is already an expert in? Source: https://psyche.co/guides/how-to-cultivate-shoshin-or-a-beginners-mind Quote: "The Japanese Zen term shoshin translates as ‘beginner’s mind’...Many historical examples demonstrate how the expert mind (or feeling like an expert) can lead to closed-mindedness and the obstruction of scientific progress."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bill Renwick
5x expanded by Aoidh (talk). Self-nominated at 01:30, 12 September 2022 (UTC).
Article has 5x expansion within 7 days. Written well and cited. Earwig shows a passage that is paraphrase too closely to the sources. See here. Can this be masssaged? Hook is short enough, interesting, and supported by in-line citation. QPQ is done. Cbl62 (talk) 05:10, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Cbl62: That specific matching wording has been in the Shoshin article since the article was created from a redirect in January 2007, it wasn't part of my rewrite. Earwig says it closely matches three articles. According to the source code of the first page it matches that page was written on "2022-09-19T05:12:55" and the second page, a Medium article was written in 2018. The third page ShoshinTech is trickier, but the December 2006 version of the website (which has no about page at that time) makes no mention of the meaning of Shoshin. It is only in May 2007 after the Shoshin article includes that text can the wording be found on that company website, indicating that they searched for Shoshin when making their "About Us" page, found the Wikipedia article, and copied the text into their page. It seems like Earwig is matching these websites because they copied the Wikipedia article, rather than the other way around, which is evidenced by the fact that they all share the wording that matches how it was phrased at various times of the Wikipedia article's history. The article originally called it a "concept" and the older website reflects that; the article then removed nyuanshin and changed "concept" to "word" and the newer websites reflect that. I can change it if you still have an issue with it but I don't think it's a paraphrase of any source and it's a good summation of the concept for the lede as written, which is why I left it intact when expanding the article. - Aoidh (talk) 05:57, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
