Template:Did you know nominations/List of Philippine submissions for the Academy Award for Best International Feature Film

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 02:01, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

List of Philippine submissions for the Academy Award for Best International Feature Film

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John Arcilla

... that apart from starring in two films that were submitted by the Philippines for Best International Feature Film at the Oscars, actor John Arcilla (pictured) also co-starred in the 2013 independent crime drama Metro Manila, which was the British submission in the category? Source: A UK film of John Arcilla makes it to Oscar derby Oscars: Philippines Picks ‘Heneral Luna’ for Foreign-Language Category Philippines Lands on ‘Birdshot’ as Academy Awards Selection
- Alt1 ... that apart from starring in two films that were submitted by the Philippines at the Oscars, actor John Arcilla (pictured) also co-starred in a 2013 independent film, which was the British submission?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Van Ness Bus Rapid Transit
- Comment: Tried to shorten the proposed hook(s) as much as possible, given that the article's title is inordinately long.

5x expanded by Pseud 14 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:20, 20 August 2022 (UTC).

The original hook was over 200 characters so it can't be used. The second hook is under 200 characters and so can probably be considered. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:36, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
- Full review needed, since ALT1 hook is not overlong. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:16, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
@Pseud 14: This list is in much better shape than it was, but it's not a 5x expansion in readable prose size. Table contents are not counted in RPS, so it's harder to 5x a list at DYK. I see it is also at FLC and encourage you to follow through with that. This is more about the way DYK rules are crafted. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- I would counter that with recent similar expansions in RPS of list articles, notwithstanding tables, that I've nominated and that appeared at DYK. (i.e. Judy Ann Santos filmography, List of awards and nominations received by Judy Ann Santos) Similarly, examples of other lists that have appeared at DYK which were expansions and which I've used as guidance (i.e. Brad Pitt filmography, Rod Steiger on screen and stage) --Pseud 14 (talk) 18:46, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
  - Pseud 14, the article prior to expansion was 1299 prose characters, requiring an expansion to 6495 prose characters to meet the 5x requirement, which traditionally has no flex to it. The article is currently 3017 prose characters, less than half the required length post-expansion. Unless you can more than double the amount of prose currently in the article, this simply cannot pass at DYK. Note that the two Judy Ann Santos articles had minuscule amounts of text—126 and 293 prose characters respectively—so a 5x expansion was less than the minimum 1500 prose characters required for every DYK nomination, and the pre-expansion Steiger and Pitt articles had even fewer prose characters each than either Santos. In this case, the article started out with much more prose, and thus needed a much greater expansion. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
    - Fair enough, should be fine. I don’t think there’s much more expansion that needs to be done in it’s current state. Pseud 14 (talk) 23:29, 24 September 2022 (UTC)