Template:Did you know nominations/Kristina Tkach

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:09, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Kristina Tkach edit

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~~... that Russian pool player Kristina Tkach won all three events at the Youth European Pool Championships in 2016?~~ Source: https://europeanpocketbilliardfederation.com/tkach-and-sniegocki-win-the-euro-tour/
- ALT1:~~... that after winning the Women’s Pro Players Championship event, Russian pool player Kristina Tkach's trophy worth $500 was broken before leaving the arena?~~ Source: https://www.azbilliards.com/news/stories/14491-tkach-downs-defending-champ-corr-wins-sbe-womens-9-ball-pro-players-championship/

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/A Short English Chronicle

Created by Lee Vilenski (talk). Self-nominated at 21:43, 23 June 2019 (UTC).

Article is new enough, long enough, with adequate citations in the prose. Of the two hooks, ALT1 is cited inline and verified. No close paraphrasing was found. However, in the lede, there is an extra "(" character, and the "Achievements" section is completely unsourced. QPQ also still pending. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 13:01, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Should be an easy fix. Wasn't expecting the review so quickly (only made the article yesterday, so no QPQ. I'll review one now.) so thanks! I'll ping when I'm done. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:40, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Narutolovehinata5 - I've done all of the above (In the process of QPQ). Let me know if there is more that needs to looked at. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, should be good to go now. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 14:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this, but the ALT1 hook, while hooky, doesn't read smoothly. I also added more information from the source to the article, so DYK readers won't just see the same sentence there as in the hook. BTW the source says it was broken while being carried out to the parking lot, not "before leaving the arena". Could we write:
ALT1a: ~~... that a Waterford crystal trophy won by Russian pool player Kristina Tkach at the Women's Pro Players Championship broke in half as it was carried out of the arena?~~ Yoninah (talk) 21:09, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Yeah Yoninah, I'm ok with this change. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:01, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. @Narutolovehinata5: could you check ALT1a please? Yoninah (talk) 11:24, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 12:11, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

No, it did not break in half, it smashed when it was dropped. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:27, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Direct quote is "As it was being carried out to a vehicle in preparation for Tkach’s exit from the Expo Center, the box it was in, was dropped, shattering the bowl into the proverbial ‘million pieces.’" I think it's confusing, as it says about it coming in two pieces before, but they just meant it wasn't one item before it broke. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:44, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Any update on this, Narutolovehinata5, Cwhiraeth? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:43, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Lee Vilenski, I would imagine that the next move is yours, since ALT1a says "broke in half", yet the quote you gave says "proverbial 'million pieces' ", which as Cwmhiraeth notes, is something completely different. Looking at the source, it seems clear to me: the trophy comes in two pieces: a crystal bowl, and a base the bowl presumably sits on. The box holding the trophy was dropped, and the bowl shattered. You need to propose a new hook for the nomination to proceed; I have struck Yoninah's ALT1a, the only hook that had remained, because it simply isn't accurate. (Please note: the article itself also needs to be adjusted, because it uses the inaccurate "broke in half" language.) BlueMoonset (talk) 14:57, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

ALT1b: ... that a Waterford crystal trophy won by Russian pool player Kristina Tkach at the Women's Pro Players Championship broke as it was carried out of the arena? should cover it, no? Could exchange for "shattered". Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:04, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

I think you need the passive tense "was broken", something like this Cwmhiraeth (talk) 15:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

ALT1c ... that a Waterford Crystal trophy, won by Russian pool player Kristina Tkach at the Women's Pro Players Championship, was dropped and broke as it was being carried out of the arena?

"Shattered" is better. Yoninah (talk) 15:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

ALT1d: ... that a Waterford Crystal trophy, won by Russian pool player Kristina Tkach at the Women's Pro Players Championship, shattered when it was dropped as it was being carried out of the arena? —BlueMoonset (talk) 15:37, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

ALT1d sounds okay to me. If there are no more objections then this should be good to go with that hook. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 08:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Narutolovehinata5, it has been over seven days, and no objections have been registered. Please feel free to proceed with finishing your review. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:29, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

I was about to approve this, but there's still an inconsistency in the article: it appears that the consensus here is to use the word "shatter", but the article still says "broke in half", despite an issue being raised with that wording here. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 04:32, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Changed in prose Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:16, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, should be good to go now: the shattering wording has been verified and is now in the article. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:07, 4 September 2019 (UTC)