- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 20:48, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
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James Le Jeune edit
... that James Le Jeune was said to be a brilliant catcher in the wry?- ALT1: ... that artist James Le Jeune was later said to be "a brilliant catcher in the wry"?
Created by Enuejel (talk). Self nominated at 22:56, 17 November 2013 (UTC).
Article is long enough and new enough and is well-referenced with inline citations. The hook is quirky and interesting and is correctly formatted. The hook fact is cited from a reliable third-party source. No QPQ required as nominator's first self-nom. Looks good to go. --Bcp67 (talk) 10:22, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
You cannot use an actual quote in a hook without using quote marks with it; to do otherwise is a copyvio. Also, I find this hook to be a bit misleading: the quote is from the 25th anniversary of his death; it wasn't said of him while it was alive, which I had initially thought. And you might consider mentioning that he was an artist. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:19, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
- If you look at the history of this page, you'll see that I chose the hook, so feel free to choose another one. I'll leave a talkback at the nominator's talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:01, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: Alt hook added for your review. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:48, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- The ALT1 hook looks good; thanks. The article itself, however, should have at least one inline source citation per paragraph, and several paragraphs do not have any citations. One citation does not seem to be warranted, the one that says he was a regular at Searson's pub: the article cited mentions a single meeting at the pub, and nothing about whether LeJeune was a regular customer there. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:56, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- The alt hook looks a bit awkward to me. Suggested alt:
- ALT2: ... that artist James Le Jeune is said to have been "a brilliant catcher in the wry"? Gatoclass (talk) 14:30, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- I'd be perfectly happy with ALT2, which is indeed smoother than ALT1 while conveying the same facts, but there are still a number of paragraphs without any inline sourcing preventing the article from being approved regardless of hook. Enuejel posted a link to my talk page on December 3 to address the Searson's pub issue, and I've added it to the article, but the fact remains that Enuejel has not edited on Wikipedia since then. I'll give another couple of days, until December 23 (three weeks from my above comment), for the needed sourcing fixes, but these sourcing issues need to be dealt with by then. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:08, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
- - it now has a ref for every para - alt2 preferred - happy new year Victuallers (talk) 17:10, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- I've removed the link to The Catcher in the Rye. The hook appeared to be falsely saying that the guy was a brilliant Salinger novel. Plus, WP:Quotations should not contain wikilinks. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC)