Template:Did you know nominations/Cholodny Went model

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The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 20:07, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Cholodny Went model edit

  • ... according to the Cholodny-Went model, many plants can change their shapes to grow toward the surface or the sun by using a growth hormone to elongate one side?

Created/expanded by Sesamehoneytart (talk). Nominated by Merlinevenhere (talk) at 05:26, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

  • No QPQ required. Article is fully supported by inline citations. Image has an acceptable copyright tag. Article is neutral enough. Hook is interesting enough. Hook is supported by article text, which is supported by an inline citation.
  • Sources support text and were not plagiarised. Hook is properly formatted.
  • Article has a tag. Please de-orphan. --LauraHale (talk) 06:15, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

De-orphan and we're good to go. --LauraHale (talk) 06:15, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

(Side comment) Dr. F.W. Went, California Institute of Technology and N. Cholodny, a Russian are probably both notable. But doing two bios to de-orphan? Maybe. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:40, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
I put in one link, from Frits Warmolt Went, who already had an article, and took out the orphan tag saying "no other articles link to it", since there is now one. But I think it needs a couple more. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:41, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Two more - deorphaned. ... but doesn't the effect cause asymmetric growth rather than a symmetric growth? Aymatth2 (talk) 02:09, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Apologies for taking so long to respond. We're good to go. :) --LauraHale (talk) 04:52, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

  • I tweaked the wording to match my understanding of the sources, then expanded the article to pull in some more sources. Think it is a reasonably accurate overview of a slightly controversial but also interesting and important subject. Someone else should check, though. Suggest ALT1 below.
  • ALT1 ... that, according to the Cholodny-Went model, many plants use the same growth hormone to make their roots grow downward and their shoots grow towards the light?

Aymatth2 (talk) 20:09, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

  • I reviewed this with reasonably fresh eyes (and I had to dig into the history of the talk page to find the discussion of this nom). the original hook is basically true, but it's difficult to make sense of its meaning, so I struck it out. I think ALT1 is valid, but I'm bothered by the use of the word "many" (seems like undue emphasis) and the idea that plants "use" auxin. Here are some alternative hook ideas that make sense to me and that I believe are supported by the article and its sources:
  • ALT2 ... that, according to the Cholodny-Went model, the roots of plants grow downward and the shoots grow towards light because of the plant hormone auxin?
  • ALT3 ... that, according to the Cholodny-Went model, plant shoots bend towards light when a growth factor moves from the lighted side of the plant to its shady side, causing the shady side to grow faster? --Orlady (talk) 04:27, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
I prefer ALT2 - simpler, and interesting that auxin acts quite differently on roots and shoots. ALT3 explains too much, my view. Aymatth2 (talk) 10:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Let's go with ALT2 then. (Hook is good; AGF acceptance of LauraHale's earlier review.) --Orlady (talk) 15:47, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
  • I hate to delay the process, and doubt there is any problem, but I made significant changes to the current version from the one reviewed by LauraHale, so it really does need a fresh review of the content, not just of the hook. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:09, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
  • OK, I revisited the article. Length and dates are OK; Aymatth2's work significantly improved the article, so I have added a dykmake template for Aymatth2. Article is amply supported by citations and I see no evidence of plagiarism/copyvio. --Orlady (talk) 16:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC)