Template:Did you know nominations/Brooke Street Pier

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The result was: Promoted by Montanabw(talk) 04:11, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Brooke Street Pier

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Brooke Street Pier under construction

  • Comment: There is currently no article for "Floating building" - would be a good link to add as well. Updated: 21 January - done! -- Chuq (talk) 13:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Created by Chuq (talk). Self nominated at 07:58, 17 January 2015 (UTC).

Interesting building! The article is new and long enough. The image is free. I have a few thoughts on the source though. Is another one available?

  • The line is referenced with source #1. It does not mention that it is the largest.
  • The line in the article states that it is one of the largest
  • It is published in a secondary source but the source is straight from the architect.
  • Does tonnes need a conversion? (I don;t know if that matters for DYK.
Cptnono (talk) 23:11, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback! I was a bit uncertain about the "Australia's largest floating building" claim - and as you see switched back and forth from "the largest" to "one of the largest" a couple of times; I've added another reference to that line, but I've also tried to verify it independently. I can't find anything on Wikipedia (or Google for that matter) about ANY other floating building in Australia. I've posted some requests on the SkyscraperCity forums too. If I can't find any other information, I guess that would make this one the de facto largest? I'll see if I can find any more sources over the next day or two. -- Chuq (talk) 11:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
That source says it is the biggest. I see no problem with using some editorial discretion to follow logic and th sources that say it is the largest. All good.Cptnono (talk) 20:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Sounds good. Additional discussion at Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians'_notice_board#Brooke_Street_Pier confirms this view :) -- Chuq (talk) 00:07, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Note the update above - I hope this doesn't affect the "confirmed" status of this DYK? -- Chuq (talk) 13:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Seriously, if it's X tonnes shouldn't it be the heaviest? EEng (talk) 01:48, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
The references describe it as "largest". (In actual fact it appears to be the *only* one anywhere close to this sort of scale, but that's OR) -- Chuq (talk) 11:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, I think the reader will be puzzled by "largest" being measured by tonnes. How about removing the cause-effect this way:

(Check me on the conversion). EEng (talk) 21:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

  • That one sounds good! The article says "5,300 tonnes (5,216 long tons)" using the convert template. I've never heard of "long tons", would it be familiar to U.S. readers? -- Chuq (talk) 22:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT2 ... that the 5300-tonne (5216-long ton) Brooke Street Pier (pictured) is Australia's largest floating building?
Well, US readers are already going to be confused by "tonne", and then on top of that "long ton" will completely blow their gaskets. The only "ton" most US readers know is "short ton" = 2000 lb. But I'd just stay with "pounds" as in ALT1. If you want to convert to some kind of US ton, I'd go with the short ton. EEng (talk) 22:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
I can only go by what others suggest, if you think pounds would be more familiar then I'm happy to go with that! -- Chuq (talk) 12:45, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Bump. Does Cptnono's tick still stand even though we've suggested another couple of ALTs? -- Chuq (talk) 07:39, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Looks good to me!Cptnono (talk) 18:08, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Promoted without image - too many articles with images pending, this one has been languishing. Montanabw(talk) 04:11, 6 February 2015 (UTC)