Template:Did you know nominations/BorderIrish

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 11:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

BorderIrish

Irish land border
Irish land border

Sources: The Guardian Irish Independent Tageblatt, BBC News Irish Times The Sunday Times

Created by Britishfinance (talk). Self-nominated at 12:25, 29 December 2019 (UTC).

Ready for review
  • @Britishfinance: This is just a comment but in order to qualify for DYK, an article needs to be at least 1,500 characters and this article is currently 1,088. Cowlibob (talk) 12:50, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks Cowlibob, I think I can expand some more - do you think that size aside, the DYK has merit? and is my DYK proposal properly structured? thanks again. Britishfinance (talk) 16:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Now at almost 2,000 characters. Still a small article, however, I thought the subject matter was timely (and entertaining) and its reception has been strong. Britishfinance (talk) 17:02, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Britishfinance, congratulations on having your first DYK on the Main Page yesterday, and for submitting this, your first self-nomination. I see that Cowlibob added a "?", but did you intend for your hook to also include everything beyond that (minus the sources, of course)? If so, it would be way over the 200-character limit. If you'd like, you can integrate part of that additional info into the existing hook, and/or create ALT hooks. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 20:55, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks Mandarax. DYK is all new to me so I am still finding my way in it. I would be open to any opinion/views you have on what is the best hook/ALT hooks from the above? I wasn't sure whether to go for a shorter one (e.g. of the 4 statements, just add the first and second) OR, whether more "substance" is needed? I thought the topic might be both interesting and entertaining (and it has gotten real coverage in RS, both as the Border and for its book). Please do re-structure in whatever way you think works, as it will help me to understand DYK. Thanks again. Britishfinance (talk) 21:02, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Mandarax, I have tried to condense it down - don't know if this works better? thanks. Britishfinance (talk) 23:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
  • I've removed the sources from the middle of the hook, putting them all at the end. The hook, currently 222 characters, is a bit too long. You and/or whoever comes along to review it will have to decide what to cut or how to reword it within 200 characters. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 02:28, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks Mandarax, just shortened it further. Britishfinance (talk) 09:09, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
  • It's 199 now. That included your removal of the km/mi conversion, which will probably end up getting added again, but a little leeway of a few characters over the limit is sometimes allowed. I'm hiding all of this preliminary text so it won't discourage reviewers who might otherwise think a review has already begun. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 21:39, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
  • This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. The hook is still a bit diffuse, personally I would leave out the bit in brackets. I think this is your second DYK, so no QPQ needs to be done. There is really no need to hide the previous discussion! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:09, 9 January 2020 (UTC)