Talk:Zach Weinersmith/Archive 1

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Some additional sources at links above. :) Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 04:33, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Awards sect

Notes:

• 2003 Web Cartoonists' Choice Awards (nominated)
• 2006 Web Cartoonists' Choice Awards (presenter)
• 2007 Web Cartoonists' Choice Awards (won)
• 2008 Web Cartoonists' Choice Awards (nominated)

— Cirt (talk) 00:19, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Removed link couldn't see the info

• Spouse: Kelly Weinersmith [1]

I wasn't able to confirm this info with this link, so I've removed it from the article. If anyone knows of another source to confirm this info, please suggest one here. — Cirt (talk) 16:01, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

My mistake, it is accurate, there's a link on the page with a link to her website, and it clearly says "(my wife!)", next to the link. :) — Cirt (talk) 13:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

There's also "my wife, Kelly Weinersmith" in the rollover image on the red button. To be boringly pedantic, though, WP:SPS does actually require a reliable secondary source for this - "Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer." also goes for husbands. --McGeddon (talk) 11:41, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

"Weinersmith"?

The article was moved to change his surname last October with an explanation of "name changed on marriage", but there's no source for this, and he seems to still be using the name "Weiner" everywhere online. Is this just an editor misunderstanding a joke/nickname regarding his wife's name, or did they genuinely combine surnames when he married Kelly Smith? --McGeddon (talk) 15:39, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

He seems to have genuinely changed his name. See the top of his web site, http://www.theweinerworks.com/. --GRuban (talk) 16:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

But on the "about" page of that site he still calls himself "Weiner", SMBC is still clearly "by Zach Weiner" at the top, and he's "Zach Weiner" on Twitter. It seems plausible enough that he's just jokingly using the Weinersmith surname here and there (in context, his website describes itself as "the inaccrochable thoughts of Zach Weinersmith"). Or that he changed it legally to Weinersmith on marriage but is still using "Weiner" professionally (which, per WP:COMMONNAME, Wikipedia should too). Can we have an actual reliable source here? --McGeddon (talk) 09:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Note: After their marriage, his wife has referred to herself as Weinersmith, as well, see "Kelly Weinersmith'" = It's more than "here and there". It's not "jokingly". :) Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 13:24, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

But this doesn't rule out the second case - if Zach's changed his legal surname but has decided to continue using "Weiner" professionally (which he seems to be doing on SMBC, SMBC Theatre, Snowflakes, Twitter, and everything except that one blog strapline), we should respect that decision and do the same here. We can put his full name in the article, but should use a page title that matches the name that readers would expect to see. --McGeddon (talk) 13:45, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Standby, I'll do some further research and inquiries. ;) — Cirt (talk) 14:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

More info at VRTS ticket # 2012022410000124, per subject, both Zach and Kelly legally changed their surnames to Weinersmith, but he uses Weiner as a stage name. — Cirt (talk) 00:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

So that would support a WP:COMMONNAME title for this article of "Zach Weiner", if he's still using it for all professional work, profiles and interviews? (I don't have a login for OTRS, so don't know what it actually says.) --McGeddon (talk) 17:06, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

On the "Weekly Weinersmith" podcast, he refers to himself as "Zach Weinersmith", and his not-a-choose-your-own-adventure-because-that's-trademarked book "Trial of the Clone" has the name Weinersmit on the cover. See http://smbc.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/trial-of-the-clone . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.154.120.36 (talk) 02:59, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps ... but as there's already a page at location for Zachary Weiner, that would get pretty confusing. Probably best to just leave it where it is, now, as Zach Weinersmith is indeed confirmed as his actual legal name. — Cirt (talk) 19:06, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Zach Weiner and Zachary Weiner disambiguating to one another would be perfectly clear, though, wouldn't it? Readers looking for Zach aren't going to type "Zachary", and those looking for "Zachary" are still going to hit this page via a redirect, if they abbreviate his name in a search or a wikilink.

It seems pretty confusing to the reader to present them with the obscure "Zach Weinersmith" as the top result when they've searched for "Zach Weiner" on Wikipedia or Google. If I'm typing his name into the dynamic Wikipedia search box and it suggests an autocomplete I've never heard of, I'm going to assume it's the wrong guy. --McGeddon (talk) 19:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

You'd get to this page, and I doubt there'd be any confusion whatsoever at that point. — Cirt (talk) 19:59, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Sure, clicking through and reading articles will always reduce the initial confusion over an article with an unexpected name, if the reader sticks with us long enough to click, but we have WP:COMMONNAME to stop that confusion before it starts. Shouldn't we be applying COMMONNAME in isolation, irrespective of the other articles that might exist around it? If we had an actor sharing a stage name with a writer, it would seem odd and unhelpful to use the actor's professionally-unused birth name as a way to achieve WP:PRECISION. --McGeddon (talk) 10:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Sure, sounds good, you've convinced me. :) — Cirt (talk) 18:11, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Article moved! Thanks for digging out the details. --McGeddon (talk) 15:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

"Currently residing in California?"

Zach and Kelly have mentioned, at least once on their podcast, that they're currently living in Alabama. I don't know how to cite a podcast episode, even if I could find the specific episode where they mention this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.154.120.36 (talk) 03:01, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Absence of the list of books that Zach wrote and/or published

A lot of the books published or worked on by Zach are missing entirely from the article, and no list is present. Is it a conscious decision, or just an omission? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.92.249.207 (talk) 22:37, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Request for Comments

There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.

The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 22:39, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Is there any source saying Zach Weiner's religion is "None"? Bus stop (talk) 23:14, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Person data, possible vandalism?

Height 4'7 Weight 600 lb (272 kg)

^-- I don't think so. -- Phiarc (talk) 22:59, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Good catch. It was added a couple of days ago, with no previous data being there. I've cut it. --McGeddon (talk) 10:12, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Astronomically Correct Version Of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star

Zach is cited in the credits of this video ([Astronomically Correct Version Of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhn-RzMELhY] from Minute Physics). Should we add it? Mateussf (talk) 01:11, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Weiner or Weinersmith

Do we have any evidence anywhere that he have officially changed his name to Weinersmith? Is it anything more than a pen name he uses? What I can verify is that his birth name is Wiener, but he signs his SMBC comics Weinersmith. He is credited as Wiener on his other projects. His website appears to use both. Any suggestions of what to do? LK (talk) 08:37, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

I went to SMBC Comics official Facebook page and asked him.

Me: Hello. Wikipedia must know your official last name. Can you help [us come to a conclusion]?
Zach: I got it changed officially when I got married. It's Weinersmith, and I am using that on all of my publications.
Zach: It's my real actual name :) Was a pain in the ass to get it changed.
Me: So you did get it officially changed. Thanks a lot!

So there. He was born Weiner but is now officially Weinersmith. Mateussf (talk) 14:08, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Sources

Below are some reliable, secondary sources that can be used to help improve this article. Editors should strive to present facts in proportion to their prominence in secondary sources per WP:NPOV, not in proportion to fan interest, trivia, or Weinersmith's own blog posts, per WP:NOTEVERYTHING and WP:SELFSOURCE. --Animalparty! (talk) 20:10, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

General

• Lynley, Matt (March 4, 2012). "This 29-Year-Old Entrepreneur Built A Hugely Popular Website By Reading Textbooks And Drawing Geeky Comics". Business Insider.

BAH-Fest

• Parker, Laura (29 October 2014). "Science So Bad It's Good". GOOD Magazine.
• Chen, Angela (December 1, 2014). "At This Conference, Scientists Spout Bogus Theories on Bugs, Yawns and Belly Fat". Wall Street Journal.
• Orr, Lucy (February 6, 2016). "BAHFest London: Hard science collides with fake theories on Trump and squirrels". Ars Technica.
• Shultz, David (31 October 2017). "Got an off-the-wall scientific argument? This festival wants to hear from you". Science. doi:10.1126/science.aar3705.

Soonish

• Simon, Matt (October 17, 2017). "Soonish: The Future Is Weird and Scary and Also Hilarious". WIRED.
• Kuchment, Anna (31 October 2017). "This Texas couple predicts 10 emerging technologies, from space guns to 3D-printed organs". Dallas News.