Talk:Wind power in Germany

Proposed Merger

Support: I believe that this article would fit well merged with the Renewable energy in Germany article. It would help give more information to renewable energy in Germany, enhancing that project. In addition, it would be a step towards removing it's "stub" status. As a side note, I've taken an interest in this project, because I'm translating stuff from the Spanish version of the Renewable energy in Germany article, as it has more content.

Oppose: Germany is the world's largest user of wind power, so if any country deserves a separate wind power article it is Germany. It is one of a series of wind power articles, see Wind power in Denmark, Wind power in Spain, Wind power in the United States, which has been usefully linked to many other articles. I am presently in touch with two German Wikipedians in an effort to get more info about wind power in Germany and expect to expand this article. Please take what content is need for the Renewable energy in Germany article and leave the main article here. -- Johnfos 21:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Oppose: I agree with Johnfos. Furthermore, several widely used navigation templates such as {{Wind power}} link to Wind power in Germany - it would be bothersome if such links became redirects. The growth in renewable energy around the world and especially in Germany should easily provide enough information to fill separate articles about the various types of renewable energy in Germany. The "Wind power in ..." articles for English-speaking nations (e.g., Wind power in the United States, Wind power in the United Kingdom, Wind power in Canada, Wind power in Australia, Wind power in New Zealand) tend to have, not surprisingly, more editors on the English Wikipedia, but we can bring up the articles for the other countries with some effort. There should be no difficulty in summarizing information from the subsidiary articles such as Wind power in Germany into the parent article (Renewable energy in Germany). See Wikipedia:Summary style. Also note that much media is available at commons:Category:Wind power in Germany which can improve this article. I am sorting through the hundreds of wind power photographs on Commons and categorizing them by country where they weren't already (and I can determine the countries depicted). --Teratornis (talk) 07:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Oppose per Johnfos and Teratornis. Beagel (talk) 20:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Broken Link

The link in footnote 2 is broken. I believe the correct link is http://www.wind-energie.de/en/wind-energy-in-germany/ . ChezChas (talk) 18:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Source needed

In the Overview section, this statistic is given, "Wind power in Germany provides over 70,000 people with jobs...". However, the source cited (footnote 2) does not include this statistic. Perhaps that's because the source web page has been changed (see the section above). Regardless, a new source is needed for this statistic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chezchas (talk • contribs) 18:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Statistic Needs Updating

The Overview section states, "Wind power currently produces about six percent of Germany’s total electrical power...". The source cited (footnote 2), states that the percentage is actually seven percent. Note that the link in footnote 2 is currently broken. See my section above for the updated link.

I would make these corrections myself, but they are beyond my "Wikipedia skill level." Plus, I thought that the original author of the article would prefer to make the changes after reviewing these suggestions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chezchas (talk • contribs) 19:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Image

File:Windkraftanlagen in Deutschland.png is possibly a great image for this page. But it is undergoing some discussion at DE. gren グレン 03:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Sources

Hello. http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/inhalt/4591/ has additional information for updating the article. Especially, http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/inhalt/45021/4591/ . Regards--Youssef (talk) 12:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Offshore only statistics are wrong

They do not match the figures at https://www.energy-charts.de/energy.htm?source=wind-offshore&period=annual&year=all

Can someone fact check/fix this?

DiamondIIIXX (talk) 08:39, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

@DiamondIIIXX: Actually, they do: [1]. Energy Charts list of individual plants is not complete, they do not track all offshore wind power plants in Germany, so if you sum their generation is going to be an underestimation of the actual total offshore generation. You should look at the aggregate figures. --Ita140188 (talk) 19:56, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Siemens not mentioned

At this point, isn't Siemens the largest supplier of wind turbines in Germany? I don't see Siemens being mentioned anywhere. SoftwareThing (talk) 19:48, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Updates to yearly statistics

I did a number of correction by actually checking with the numbers from the latest (Stand: Februar 2022) _Time series for the development of renewable energy sources in Germany_ excel from https://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/EE/Navigation/DE/Service/Erneuerbare_Energien_in_Zahlen/Zeitreihen/zeitreihen.html This is the source that was initially used, but the recent years were using a variety of others sources, it's much more reliable to always use the same one (and here it's the most official one from the German ministry of economy and climate). Previous years also had some changes, which isn't unusual at all for German energy data, they regularly go back some (or even many !) years back to do some very late corrections. Also the capacity factor didn't take into account the leap years. Finally its values sometimes diverged from what my excel formula ( Round with 2 digits (Production / Capacity * (8760 or 8784)) ) gives with no identifiable reason, so I corrected since the initial calculation has been done by an IP that I can't contact (and I can't find any other explanation for the difference than material errors). Jmdwp (talk) 22:50, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

The capacity factors are clearly WP:OR, and they are factually wrong, since not all capacity was present for the whole year. The capacity reported is only the end-of-year value, so the actual average capacity during the year should be between that value and the value in the previous year. CF should be calculated with this average capacity value, which however is not available. In practice this means that capacity factors are consistently underestimated, especially in years with large installed capacity growth. I would propose to remove the CF altogether. --Ita140188 (talk) 07:33, 26 September 2022 (UTC)