Talk:Western Journalism Center

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Andy M. Wang in topic Requested move 10 September 2016

Lawsuit amount claimed edit

Any lawyer can sue for any amount in just about any lawsuit, and those amounts are generally meaningless. The amounts become meaningful only when upheld by jury or judge or appeals court. This lawsuit was thrown out once by a federal judge, then again by appeals court. That means the claimants had their day in court, with the result that the judicial system ruled that the case had no merit in any of its claims.skywriter 21:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Neutrality and Article Issues edit

Upon review, this article seems somewhat slanted in one particular direction. In addition, is it even something that meets WP:Notability for an org?

If this withstands notability, I would submit this article needs a complete rewrite and editing for content, along with a search for new and more reliable sources to accompany the text. I would like to hear the thoughts of the room.IlliniGradResearch (talk) 05:59, 1 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Deletion for lack of documentation, slanted wording edit

Deleted the following for complete absence of refernce (the footnote goes nowhere) and weasel-wording ("... is known for ..." without reference or documentation).The one footnote goes nowhere.

"the Center is known for its funding and promotion of conservative causes in the 1990s, and for its harassment of mainstream media outlets with bulk fax campaigns.[1]"

Truly substandard. JTGILLICK (talk) 05:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16611 ""Western Journalism Center to sue IRS""]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved November 29, 2005. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

James H. Smith edit

The link for James H. Smith, who helped found this org in 1991, leads to an article about a James H. Smith who died in 1982. Rjhenn (talk) 22:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

WP:Notability and WP:NPOV issues edit

The following sentences appeared as follows in the "Ownership" section of this page:

1) The Center doesn't include either an address or telephone number on its letterhead, but is believed to be headed by conservative political operative Floyd Brown. 2) In March 2009, the Center sent out an email questioning Barack Obama's citizenship.

Both had issues regarding NPOV or notability and I have revised them for the reason below:

1) I replaced "conservative political operative" with "conservative author, speaker, and political consultant" (words that are directly out of the Floyd Brown page lead. The term "political operative" is obviously a negative term and violates Wiki's WP:NPOV guidelines. 2) Sentence was deleted. It has nothing to do with "Ownership" so it has no place in this section and fails the WP:Notability test for placement within this article. One e-mail from a entity such as this isn't relevant unless someone's personal bias elevates it to that level.

Please comment as applicable/appropriate. Ckruschke (talk) 17:28, 1 March 2012 (UTC)CkruschkeReply

Requested move 10 September 2016 edit

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Consensus for the move not reached after ~25 days (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 06:04, 6 October 2016 (UTC)Reply


Western Journalism CenterWestern Journalism – Western Journalism Center re-launched as Western Center for Journalism in 2009. By April 2014 Western Journalism was distinguishing between its WesternJournalism.com and WCJ properties. In Jan. 2015 WCJ was removed from WJ's about page. Western Journalism does not use the WJC or WCJ brands anymore. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 08:42, 10 September 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 01:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC) --Relisting.JFG talk 13:20, 3 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • Then move to Western Center for Journalism. Western journalism is a very broad topic that has hardly anything to do with the WJC/WCJ at all. If, against all odds, the WP:COMMONNAME has really become "Western Journalism" for this organization, then move it to Western Journalism (organization), but the odds of this are very low. The nominator's WP:OFFICIALNAME argument is far too weak to support the proposed move (and WP:DIFFCAPS doesn't save it; that was meant to distinguish, e.g., acronyms from regular words, and in case like t his the entire practice of Western journalism is frequently overcapitalized in many contexts, so it is naturally ambiguous).  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  02:45, 11 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • Why did you disambiguate "Western Journalism (org)"? Is there another WJ I'm not aware of? Mark Schierbecker (talk) 19:46, 11 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose. As pointed out above, the official name has little significance here. No evidence that the common name has changed, and again as pointed out above, even if it did we'd need to disambiguate. Andrewa (talk) 04:36, 3 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.