Talk:Waco 10

Help requested with contents and links to 'Wikify' this article RuthAS (talk) 09:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

We usually do variants as lists, but maybe in this case, with old and new designations etc. a table might make easier reading? Also need to cross check with the Waco article to ensure agreement. Can someone provide an Operational history: there were 1,643 of them, what did they do?TSRL (talk) 22:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

According to the Waco article there were also 'TOs (tapered wings) as well as 'SOs. More to add to Variants?TSRL (talk) 22:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I've never seen it explicitly written what they did (as a useable source) but barnstorming seemed to be a major occupation along with stunting and general airshow flying. Flying billboards (with the sponsor's name written on the wings and fuselage), and related publicity stunts also constituted a major source of revenue. No doubt many were also used as trainers replacing the Curtiss JN.4 and Standard J types. Early FBO's (Fixed base operator) who normally provided almost any service their aircraft could be asked to carry out would have had a great many of them. Unfortunately most of the good references are Waco company material and they don't dwell much on what their aircraft were being used for (at least until you get into the cabin biplanes, then the first owner's names are all know, along with colour schemes for the earlier standard cabins). The Taperwing was the Pitts Special of its day and many were used by famous contemporary pilots such as Larry Hall (who had a black and white striped example) for their aerobatic routines. Several were bought be various air forces, primarily in South America, including the 240-A which was equipped as a twin gun fighter.

It would be reasonable to lump the Taperwings in with the 10 with page name change - however what to call it gets to be a challenge while actually staying within Waco's terminology. The JYM and JWM were also related (differing only in having a plug that stretched the fuselage). Perhaps Early Open Waco Biplanes, which can cover the 9, which evolved rather gradually into the 10? A separate page could then cover early experimental Wacos to cover the Coots, the first Waco cabin (Model 8 - 1 built) and several types based on Curtiss JN parts. Just a thought. The main page should also be renamed since Weaver only really covers a short period of time in the organization's history.NiD.29 (talk) 04:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a new (10 June) article on Waco Mailplanes.By the way, one of the many things I did not know when I started producing articles was to add name and date to the Wikipedia:New articles (Aircraft) page in the current month and up the number of new aircraft at the top. Helps to avoid the horror of spending ages at a page off line, only to find someone else has just done the same! I've added this page at the right date point.TSRL (talk) 09:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Variant table

I've reorganised the existing variant data into a table. Tables are not often the best way of summarising variant data, but in cases like this one, where the variables are type letter, engine and its powers I think it makes it easier to find a particular type and saves a lot of repetition which is hard to avoid in text format.

If anyone has production numbers, these could easily be added. There remain the taperwing variants to add.TSRL (talk) 10:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

It actually looks pretty good - Waco models are quite confusing otherwise. Question - where is the ATO on the table? We have a photo of it but no mention in the text as part of the "O" series. - Ahunt (talk) 10:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Done that. Sure there is more to say about the taperwing, which seems to have been a rather distinct craft.TSRL (talk) 11:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I see that - great start! Glad I could at least contribute a photo of a taperwing! - Ahunt (talk) 12:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Museum aircraft

CF-AOI was in the Aero Space Museum of Calgary so may be on loan, or may have been on loan, however Canadain Warbird Survivors by Skaarup lists it at Renold's. - NiD.29 (talk) 23:24, 12 March 2019 (UTC)