Talk:Violin Concerto No. 2 (Bartók)

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Hyacinth in topic Removed: Uncited
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"Analysis" section edit

As a Wikipedian:

(A) The length of this section indicates that it is either original, and therefore falls under original research (in this form it should be published in a musical publication, and then adapted to fit the needs of an encyclopedia not generally frequented by musicians), or not original, therefore uncited (and possibly plagiarism).

(B) It only covers the first movement of a three-movement work, and is therefore incomplete.

As a music student and musician:

(C) It is a poor quality analysis; it pays little attention to form and less to harmony, apparently concentrating mainly on orchestral effects and examining individual sections rather than examining how they (and affiliated lines) fit together as a whole; it goes into far too much detail without actually providing much information.

Suggestion: It should be removed and replaced with something else. (I'd do it myself whenever I find time to extract a copy of the Bartók 1938 from the local music library.) ~ UI (talk) 04:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Removed: Uncited edit

  • The first movement is a sonata form in B minor. The second movement is the aforementioned theme and variations in G major. The finale is based on the themes introduced in the opening movement. Bartók's original ending was purely orchestral, but Székely objected to this, so the composer wrote an alternative ending to meet Székely's taste. Today, both endings are used.{{Citation needed|date=January 2011}}
  • Alan Walker, in Franz Liszt: the Weimar Years, points out the similarity between the compositional technique used by Liszt in his Faust Symphony, in which the finale's themes are entirely variations of themes used in the opening "Faust" movement, and Bartók's Second Violin Concerto.{{Full|date=January 2011}}<!--Publication details of Walker's book needed, especially the page reference where he claims that Liszt wrote variations on themes from Bartók's Second Violin Concerto.-->

The above was removed as uncited. Hyacinth (talk) 22:24, 4 March 2012 (UTC)Reply