Talk:Turtle Creek, Dallas

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The result of the debate was no consensus to move. —Mets501 (talk) 03:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

Turtle Creek, Dallas → Turtle Creek, Dallas, Texas — Rationale discussed at WP:DALLAS and across United States city WikiProjects. drumguy8800 C T 11:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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• Oppose. I prefer Turtle Creek with the standard disambiguator of (Dallas), thus giving Turtle Creek (Dallas). But Turtle Creek, Dallas is okay. Convention or not, Turtle Creek, Dallas, Texas is a horrible and nonstandard way to refer to that community. --Serge 03:41, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support. All neighborhoods in Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Seattle, quite a few Columbus ones, and more importantly in this instance, all other Dallas ones are in the neighborhood, Dallas, Texas format. Turtle Creek (Dallas) implies an actual creek, as places are disambiguated using commas, not parentheses. The actual creek is located at Turtle Creek (Dallas County, Texas), as there are three other turtle creeks in the state. This article would already be moved except that at one point the exact reverse operation was taking place due to a different community consensus. The process of going through an administrator is just a formality in this instance, and there really isn't much to vote on. drumguy8800 C T 04:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose. I agree with Serge on the reason for objecting. We don't agree on the solution since I believe that it should be Turtle Creek, Texas (Dallas). If anything this rename should be withdrawn while there is an ongoing discussion on naming convention. When the issue there is resolved then this one can be considered in light of what the convention is at that time. Vegaswikian 22:41, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support, per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (settlements). — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 00:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose Every once in a while Serge and I agree on a city naming issue. Extending the comma convention for neighborhoods was a bad idea, not at all supported by common use. To avoid ambiguity with the stream, I'd suggest something like Turtle Creek (Dallas neighborhood). older ≠ wiser 17:04, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose prefer alternative mentioned below. Agne 12:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Support per nom. TJ Spyke 06:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

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An alternative suggestion: Turtle Creek (Dallas, Texas)
This would maintain the integrity of the current naming convention, provide proper context to the article title, and be more visually pleasing then the two comma string of Turtle Creek, Dallas, Texas Agne 12:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Um okay, that's dandy; however other cities are using the x, y, z thing and unless you want to go through and fix all of them, then x, y, z is the current standard. Also, Turtle Creek (Dallas County, Texas) is about the actual Creek. and there isn't another neighborhood named Turtle Creek, so there's no need to add a disambiguate thing at the end. However, like all other United States city articles, there are next-level names placed at the end. For instance, Oklahoma City redirects to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma even though there aren't any other Oklahoma Citys. This entire thing has already been discussed, its just that a simple page-move is not possible for some reason here. Beating a dead horse. drumguy8800 C T 09:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

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