Talk:Tinker
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Irish and Scottish ARE NOT the same thing
editI changed the page to say that Tinker is a derogatory term used to describe Irish Travellers, not from Scottish Travellers like it said before. I've never heard of Scottish Travellers, but I am a Tinker and I can assure you I'm IRISH and not SCOTTISH. Furthermore, there is no "Scottish Traveller" page, and the first line of the "Irish Traveller" page mentions that we are called Tinkers.
= NOTE: Please review http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/tinkers-damn.html as your article is not correct about the phrase. At least get it right before publishing. JBenoit
The sentence "However, this usage is disputed and considered offensive by some." now appears before the Collins citation, which was clearly meant to attest only to the usage. The citation provided does not say that the term is disputed and considered offensive -- regardless of whether or not that claim is true, it requires a citation to support it. 70.26.7.226 (talk) 22:36, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
New Page?
editOn the disambiguation page, Tinker, "Tinker (profession)" is listed. Shouldn't there also be a "Tinker (hobby)" page as well?
I propose this new page detail the past and present state of consumer-level modifications, i.e. Hobbyist Tinkerers.
Fave — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.166.218.65 (talk) 15:04, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
This is a Stub
editThis would include the early days of consumer electronics and the way manufactures marketed products as serviceable via field replaceable parts. A couple examples of such CE devices would be vintage Cathode-Ray Televisions and AM Radios. The product could be opened easily and trouble-shot in the consumers home by a repair technician. The faulty component would be replaced (vacuum-tube, electron-gun, etc.) and the consumer pays the price of the repair rather then buying a new unit. This was an effective business model because early consumer electronics were rather expensive by today's standards. Most families would not be able to afford to buy a replacement upon product failure. Thus, a service industry was born. The service industry profits off the repairs while buying replacement parts from manufacturer. This gives the manufacturer and supplementary income they needed to be profitable. This mirrors the OEM parts market for automobiles.
Sometimes, the consumer tries to improve on the original product beyond what the manufacture expected. If the modification is desirable and/or marketable, the manufacture may decide to incorporate the modification into future products, occasionally buying the rights from the inventor. [Add Examples]
Today, intellectual property laws in the form of patents and copyrights, have all but put a stop to the open Consumer-Supplier cycle of innovation. Many times, manufacturers look down on individuals who "Hack" [Link to "Hacker" page] their products. Sometimes, even legal action. Many "tinkerers" only post their work over the Internet anonymously, because of the fear of litigation.
Wend Valley Airport
editI have removed the unreferenced entry to Wend Valley Airport being AKA as Tinkerville, as the only evidence I can find are versions of this Wikipedia entry! Please feel free to reinstate with a third party reference Thozza (talk) 17:14, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Tinker's damn
editHere: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=tinker The Online Etymology Dictionary a usually authoritative source, claims that the phrase "tinker's dam" is part of an "ingeniously elaborate but baseless" folk etymology of the phrase "tinker's damn". The Dictionary traces this false etymology to 1877, presumably the same source that is used authoritatively in this Wikipedia article.
The phrase "tinker's damn" should be listed first, and the phrase "tinker's dam" should come later, with a note that the 1877 source may actually have mistakenly coined the term.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.203.93.163 (talk) 12:03, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Heather Wheeler remarks
editWorth adding in. Given its a recent usage of the term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.240.58.228 (talk) 15:25, 20 June 2019 (UTC)