Talk:Third party and independent candidates for the 2024 United States presidential election

Latest comment: 12 hours ago by Tipsyfishing in topic Third Party with Ballot Access

Dick Cheney edit

Former UN Ambassador John Bolton just announced that he's considering starting a national write-in effort for Dick Cheney President. What are we supposed to do with this information? I added Cheney Sr. to the potential candidates section since that kinda made sense, but if anyone has other ideas feel free to leave suggestions. RickStrate2029 (talk) 17:27, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Not really a potential candidate. Anyone can write-in anyone; doesn’t make them a “candidate”. Prcc27 (talk) 17:23, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Anyone can write-in anyone, but not just anyone has a national write-in movement behind them. John Bolton said he's starting a national write-in movement for Dick Cheney, that makes him a candidate. RickStrate2029 (talk) 21:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article just says Bolton is planning on writing in Cheney[1]; nothing is mentioned about a "national write-in campaign." David O. Johnson (talk) 21:29, 14 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Incorrect, if you listen to the video of Bolton he specifically says "if I could start a national write-in movement for Dick Cheney, maybe I should do that". RickStrate2029 (talk) 18:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Fusion ticket parties edit

Because this is about third party candidates and WFP, Conservative Party, United Kansas are expected to fusion ticket a major party nominee I feel like they can be removed? The fusion ticket parties aren’t included on the 2020 page. Crazysportsdude1 (talk) 01:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I agree that parties that are fusion-ticketing a major party candidate need not be included on this page. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 01:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I also agree, but they have to announce that they're fusion-ticketing first. Until then, they should stay. RickStrate2029 (talk) 18:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Randall Terry Nominated for Constitution Party edit

According to Ballot Access News, Randall Terry has been nominated by the Constitution Party to be their party's nominee in the 2024 election at their National Convention in Salt Lake City. However, not yet clear on if/who they have decided as their VP nominee.

Source: https://ballot-access.org/2024/04/27/randall-terry-wins-constitution-partys-presidential-nomination/ Aaraeal14017 (talk) 17:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Terry and his running mate are now included on the page. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 23:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Third Party with Ballot Access edit

This page lists several political parties with ballot access who have not endorsed or nominated a candidate yet. I went through Ballotpedia and through each state's election website. For the sake of future edits, I will list them here if anyone wishes to do a little more research and add them into the article. They are the America First Party of Mississippi, Boricua Party of Florida, Coalition with a Purpose of Florida, Colorado Center Party, Conservative Party of Delaware, Conservative Party of Florida, Ecology Party of Florida, Forward Party, Independent American Party of Utah, Independent Party of Delaware, Independent Party of Florida, Independent Party of Louisiana, Independent Party of Oregon, Justice Party of Mississippi, Non-Partisan Delaware, People's Party of Florida (though they are about to have their access revoked this month), Reform Party USA of Mississippi, United Utah Party, Vermont Progressive Party, and the Working Class Party of Maryland and Michigan. I haven't been able to figure out if the Conservative Parties of Delaware and Florida are affiliated or if the Independent Parties of Delaware, Florida, Louisiana, or Oregon are affiliated. The two Working Class Parties are definitely affiliated, though. Thecommander236 (talk) 20:45, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Through research I have done myself, a large majority of the parties that you have listed have never nominated a candidate for President in their own right, and show no signs that they might this time round. Longestview (talk) 21:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Here's a list of those parties and their presidential nominations:
New parties (Achieved ballot access after 2020)
  • Colorado Center Party
  • Forward Party (No plans)
No nominee in last 3 elections:
  • America First Party of Mississippi
  • Independent Party of Oregon (Nominated Biden in 2020, has not nominated its own candidate)
  • Reform Party USA of Mississippi
  • Vermont Progressive Party
  • United Utah Party
  • Working Class Parties of Maryland and Michigan
  • Justice Party of Mississippi
  • Independent Party of Delaware Nominated RFK Jr.
  • Non-Partisan Delaware
  • Conservative Party of Delaware
  • Independent Party of Louisiana
Florida's recognized minor parties that are unable to nominate a presidential candidate without 100k signatures or being added to the ballot by the Secretary of State (only parties automatically given access are DEM, REP, GRN, LIB, NAT.LAW, CONST, and SOC.)
  • Boricua Party of Florida
  • Coalition with a Purpose of Florida
  • Conservative Party of Florida
  • Ecology Party of Florida
  • Independent Party of Florida
  • People's Party of Florida
Look out for:
  • Independent American Party of Utah
Longestview (talk) 04:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
The Independent Party of Delaware itself has not mentioned their nomination. RFK JR's site is the only source of it so far. Added a [better source needed] tag to the endorsement until further notice. Tipsyfishing (talk) 21:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ballot Access News has reported on it.
https://ballot-access.org/2024/05/07/independent-party-of-delaware-nominates-robert-f-kennedy-jr-for-president/ David O. Johnson (talk) 22:28, 8 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ballot Access News is an aggregator, without a direct source besides what the campaigns themselves state in this situation. Tipsyfishing (talk) 00:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Petition rejected or withdrawn edit

Why is Nevada for RFKJR marked as “Petition rejected or withdrawn”? The petition has not been officially rejected, has it? Also, why does the color only show up for RFKJR. And are the states in red sourced well enough to comply with WP:RS..? Prcc27 (talk) 05:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

He didn't have a vice president candidate on his ballot when he started the petition. The law seems to made to prevent a candidate from tricking voters from supporting a ticket that misleads them. RFK threatened to sue, but there hasn't been any more news since then. Nevada hasn't said if this issue can be rectified to my knowledge. Thecommander236 (talk) 18:32, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I feel like it is WP:OR to say the petition was rejected. Yes, the state told him he was supposed to have a running mate on the petition, but that is not a formal rejection. Nevada should not be red. Prcc27 (talk) 02:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
You can try and contact the campaign or Nevada and ask them directly. Lacking any official word, the petition seems to be on hold for now. I believe he will get on the ballot in the end. Thecommander236 (talk) 07:57, 7 May 2024 (UTC)Reply