Talk:The Seeker (film)

Premise

"Part of a five-book series by Susan Cooper, 'The Dark Is Rising' focuses on a youth, Will Stanton (Ludwig), who discovers at age 11 that he's the last of a group of immortals -- the Old Ones -- dedicated to fighting a growing presence of dark forces. He comes to the realization he's charged with saving the world."

"Next pics to be released by the new Fox-Walden venture are 'The Dark Is Rising,' the feature adaptation of Susan Cooper's series about a boy whose everyday life is turned upside down when he learns he is the last of the "Old Ones," a group of immortal warriors who have dedicated their lives to fighting the forces of the dark."

"'Dark' tells the story of a teenager (newcomer Alexander Ludwig) who learns that he is the last of a group of warriors who have dedicated their lives to fighting the forces of the Dark. Traveling back and forth through time, he hunts for clues while encountering the forces of evil and discovers that the future of the world rests in his hands. Smith is playing the teen's older brother, an edgy young man with piercings and tattoos who questions their father's authority. Eccleston is playing the movie's villain, the Rider."

Above is to help re-structure the premise based on the available information, as there is nothing to indicate at this point how faithful the film adaptation will be to its source. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 16:21, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Since it's not clear whether the Old Ones' "immortality" is a mistake or a change from the source material, I've left out mention of it. I've also revised the premise to add detail about characters and activity. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 17:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

The Old Ones are described as immortal in the original books, so it's a safe bet it wasn't a mistake. 217.136.79.169 01:50, 23 April 2007 (UTC)Anon. Y. Mouse

Having read the whole series several times, I feel that describing the old ones as Warriors is wrong, as they never really fight, but rather defend through the whole series. This is mainly because it was pointless, as it is repeatedly stated that The Dark cannot kill an Old One until it gains total dominion over the world & vice versa. Also, the only people to raise weapons in the series aren't old ones, but rather mortals affiliated with the light. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.189.138.123 (talk) 23:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

hello. im the guy who kept "maliciosly" changing this page, making fun of it for being a bastard child of harry potter, months before it even came out. and i am proud of myself, loving the book, and series, and proud of being absolutely correctly and moraly right. i am happy that everybody nolonger cares for this movie, showing that finding an obscure(?) book that people love, and then destroying that does not pay. is this a too long rant for a movie that noone cares about? that fact makes me so proud right now —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.49.57.167 (talk) 08:39, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

References

Citations for use

• Harry Knowles (2007-05-15). "Harry reports on THE DARK IS RISING in Bucharest!!!". Ain't It Cool News. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

• "First The Dark Is Rising Photos". ComingSoon.net. 2007-05-16. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

• Scott Collura (2007-05-16). "Set Visit: The Dark Is Rising". IGN. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

• Patrick Lee (2007-05-16). "Dark Rises Differently". Sci Fi Wire. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

• Pamela McClintock (2007-05-16). "Fox Walden sets schedule". Variety. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

• Patrick Lee (2007-05-17). "Boy At Center Of Dark Story". Sci Fi Wire. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

• Edward Douglas (2007-05-18). "The Dark is Rising Set Visit Preview". ComingSoon.net. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

• Scott Collura (2007-05-18). "Set Visit: Writing in The Dark". IGN. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

• Devin Faraci (2007-05-17). "THE DARK IS CHANGING". CHUD.com. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

• Stephanie Sanchez (2007-05-17). "Set Visit Report: The Dark Is Rising Over Bucharest!". IESB.net. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

• Kyle Braun (2007-05-25). "The Dark is Rising Set Visit". UGO. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

• Edward Douglas (2007-06-01). "Christopher Eccleston Rides Again!". ComingSoon.net. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

Above headlines have been implemented into the article. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

• Q&A: ‘The Dark Is Rising’ Star Gregory Smith

Headline for implementation. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

• ‘Dark Is Rising’ Screenwriter Explains Why He Took The Job —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

• Chasing Ad Dollar Is All Fun and Games —Erik (talk • contrib) - 01:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

• Dark Stealth Promotion Begins —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:42, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

• 'The Seeker' gives 'Potter' fans hope —Erik (talk • contrib) - 22:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• Dark Differs From Books —Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:49, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

• Francis Conroy Interview - The Seeker: The Dark is Rising —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

• The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising: The Interviews —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• They Call Them the Seekers: Part One —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• Dark Is Now Seeker —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• Alexander Ludwig Interview —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:09, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• They Call Them the Seekers: Part Two —Erik (talk • contrib) - 00:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

• Variety review - Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 17:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

• The Seeker @ Rottentomatoes - Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 17:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Corvids in film

Ummm...they sure ain't rooks in the film but Carrion Crows methinks. Can't put it in as am not aware of a reference as such...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

One set visitor called them "ravens". Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 12:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

The end credits of the film list a"Snake/Raven Handler". Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 02:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

The Film Title

I just looked at the page and the film is being called The Seeker, and that it was formerly The Dark is Rising. This might or might not be true in the USA, but in the UK it is called the Dark is Rising by all TV adverts, the Vue cinema website and all the advertising cutouts and posters. The page should be amended to reflect this. (Vue Cinema Website - http://www.myvue.com/students/now_booking.asp?ci=17) Andrew7588 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.96.59 (talk) 15:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Unsure. The imdb (by no means reliable) doesn't have the alternate title, and a quick Google News search indicates that the majority of the UK press are referring to it by either The Seeker or The Seeker: The Dark is Rising. I haven't seen any of the UK adverts for it, and I know it sounds silly, but is it possible that the ads have The Seeker portion of the title in a tiny font or something like that? They did a similar thing with I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry, voiceover guy just calling it Chuck and Larry, and the poster image at the end of the advert having the I Now Pronounce You part in a rather unobtrusive position. Best regards, Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 15:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

No, its not a sub title, if you go here - http://www.myvue.com/students/film_info_detail.asp?SessionID=022FC2B966144A5690AD30A554802BBC&cn=1&ci=17&ln=1&fi=6982 - and view the trailer, the end just say "The Dark Is Rising" I'm going out in a few minutes and I'll be passing my local cinema, so I'll check the posters while I'm there. Andrew7588

Ok, been out, looked, none of the posters, cut outs, ads or booking computers have The Seeker on them anywhere. Its definitely called The Dark Is Rising in the UK. Andrew 7588 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.96.59 (talk) 19:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll have to find some reliable sources that talk about the film title and its changes -- from what I can tell, not everyone is informed of the changes. Some UK headlines about the film may help. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, here's the official site for the UK, which identifies the film as "The Dark Is Rising." —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

The 20th Century Fox UK site also identifies the UK release as The Dark is Rising. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 19:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I've revised it accordingly. Since it's an American production, I think it's most appropriate for it to be under its American title primarily, with the UK title mentioned right after. Does this work for everyone? I'll have to find citations to show that the title changes were not implemented everywhere. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Wassupwestcoast, where's the verifiable proof that it's called The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising in Canada? This studio's marketing campaign is really FUBAR. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

There is already a reference in the article - see Globe and Mail review of The Seeker: The Dark is Rising - but I'll provide more. I know it to be true because I've seen it with my own eyes. My local theatre has the The Seeker:The Dark is Rising poster and the marquee says the same thing. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, gotcha, I didn't scroll down to check the Release section. Works for me! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, more Canadian references. Cineples Odeon websiteSeeker:The Dark is Rising (If you look at the one sheet poster image you'll notice the title is The Seeker:The Dark is Rising. Another Canadian movie review: The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising. I've never seen a movie released in Canada with a different title except, of course, Harry Potter 1. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks for the clarification. No dispute here! :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

The different titles are weird. And it just isn't the posters either. I saw the film this afternoon - in Canada - and the print I saw says on the opening title credits The Seeker in big letters with The Dark is Rising directly below it in flattened out letters. So it just isn't posters but the actual title in the film itself that says The Seeker:The Dark is Rising in Canada. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 03:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

The copy I checked out of the New York Public Library was called The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising on the film, The Seeker on the front cover and spine, and The Dark Is Rising on the credits list. I have also seen copies in the store with the title The Dark Is Rising. I suspect the title change has to do with the film's failure, since the subtitle implies that there will be sequels. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 20:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Plot summary

According to Wikipedia:WikiProject Films: "Plot summaries should be between 400 and 700 words (about 600 words), but should not exceed 900 words unless there is a specific reason such as a complicated plot." The plot summary was about 1500 words and has been trimmed to about 1100 words: about half the words still have to go. I'll try to wittle at it later on. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 00:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I've got the plot summary down to 592 words. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast

Nice work! I opted for fuller paragraphs because that seems to be the general consensus for a large body of writing. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:13, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Rumour

Any source for this rumour: "It is rumored that a extended edition of the movie, featuring Jonathan Jackon's scenes as the Walker, is being made. " Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 23:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

DVD Release

The DVD I bought has no extra features at all, not even "previews" nor directory commentaries. It is a very bare-bones DVD. I was very disappointed. I don't know where the information about featurettes on the main page comes from. --Mjrmtg (talk) 01:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

It's on the European and Autralian release (DVD region 2 and 4, I think). Region 1 doesn't seem to have it unless their is a deluxe DVD that I haven't seen. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 02:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

The region information should be listed under the DVD release, otherwise it sounds like all regions have the extended features. --Mjrmtg (talk) 02:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Good point! Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 03:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Song

The end credits claim that Pete Townshend's "The Seeker" is used in the film, but I'm quite certain I would have heard it. I assume it's either deeply buried in the sound mix or that it was featured in the trailer, which is not included on the DVD. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 00:30, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

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