Talk:Occultation (Islam)

72.188.118.58 (talk) 23:44, 14 July 2020 (UTC)The article should be renamed to Occultation (Shia Islam) or Occultation (Shi'ism). This will make it less ambigious.

The Occultation

I note the sentence: "During this period, from 874-914 AD, the deputies represented him and acted as agents between him and his followers." yet thereafter all references are to the year 941 AD. Have I misunderstood, or is there a typographical error here, please? Dawright12 (talk) 12:08, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 20 September 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Occultation (Islam)  — Amakuru (talk) 15:26, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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The Occultation → ? – Per WP:THE articles should not start with "The"; using one to distinguish Occultation from The Occultation is doubly bad. Possible alternatives are disambiguators Occultation (Islam) or Occultation (Shia Islam) or other; or the Arabic name Ghaybah. jnestorius^(talk) 15:14, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

• Support moving away from the current title, since for most English speakers it's not sufficient to disambiguate the subject from other occultations. I'd suggest Occultation of the Mahdi for the new title since that's what it's about. 64.105.98.115 (talk) 22:24, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
• Support removal of "The" per WP:THE. Considering other-language wikis (ar-wiki, for example, uses a title that translates as "Occultation (theology)") and WP:UE, I think I'd go for Occultation (Islam). Also, a few sections down the page, other denominations speak about the occultation of other persons, so I'd rather not pick the IP's suggestion. --HyperGaruda (talk) 09:27, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
• Support moving away from the current title, Occultation (Islam) or Occultation of the Mahdi both acceptable. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:49, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

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Definition

The page uses “occultation” to define “occultation”. 2600:1017:B80D:812E:2931:4CD9:11F7:40D0 (talk) 10:41, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

New edits

The new edits are intended to address the following issues, among other things.

• The article has lots of unsourced or poorly sourced content.
• Extinct Shia sects can be summarized into "Other views" so as not to divert attention from the existing branches.
• There doesn't seem to be a good reason for including Bahai views in a distinctively Shia article. Same for the Druze.
• "Secular democracy during Occultation" is a large section that promotes a particular political view, and it's misplaced and irrelevant here at best.
• "Scholarly observations" looks like the type of place where opposing editors would go back and forth and off-topic. It's hardly justified here. Albertatiran (talk) 16:07, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Responsibility of the believers in the age of occultations

Responsibilitys of the believers in the age of occultations in roman English 2409:40F2:1B:9DD4:4497:6CFF:FE57:3750 (talk) 17:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)