Talk:The Faceless Ones

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Polly's double

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The BBC's official website for this story verifies that Anneke Wills also appeared as Michelle Leuppi in this story. Please see www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/facelessones.detail.shtml under the section "Continuity". This official source was provided by the editor who thus they should receive an apology and have their block lifted 2600:1010:B009:7F22:F8B2:ACC7:6D3:7C63 (talk) 01:02, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

That URL does not work - I get a 404 - [1]. I did find this document [2] which only credits Anneke Wills as Polly. The fact there was a doppleganger is listed in the plot and it does not need to be reflected in casting as well. Also the new information is poorly constructed - you should not use other Wikipedia articles as a source WP:CIRCULAR. Dresken (talk) 01:11, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
I apologize. I made a typo. The link is accurate. So is the wiki edit: www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/facelessones/detail.shtml It's listed under 'Continuity' 2600:1010:B04F:61F3:7C05:A941:59F9:D255 (talk) 01:17, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
The link you have provided looks to provide a source for the plot of the episode - however this information is actually already included in the plot section of this article. I don't see a reason this needs to be also included in the casting section as well - it does not appear to be required nor notable there. Dresken (talk) 01:33, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
The link verifies that Wills played two parts in this story, something that is not currenty included in the article. If it is not acceptable as a cast point, please remove the similar references to other cast members in the articles relating to other Doctor Who stories The Enemy of the World, Inferno, The Massacre, The Androids of Tara and others as well as the pages relating to Polly and other characters as they cannot be relevant either. I shall make all the necessary edits myself if you are unable to do so quite happily.2600:1010:B069:8681:8547:DC3:1ACA:E9A8 (talk) 01:39, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
Some of the examples you give seem a bit different - some do not appear to make references in the casting section - and some of the roles are credited anyway: [3] [4]. If you are after consistency between these articles - it might be better to take this up at the project page WP:WHO and gain a coherent consensus. Dresken (talk) 02:09, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
By my reckoning, exactly the same content, with exactly the same seven references, has been added or re-added no less than nine times, without changing one word. In regard to these edits, also the post at User talk:4.15.121.251#Accurate edit, the person adding this content may feel that the edit was accurate, but they put "as verified by wikipedia" in the article text. That is a red flag in itself, regardless of any sourcing that follows: you cannot use articles from Wikipedia as sources. Of the refs that were put inside <ref>...</ref> tags: the tardis.wikia.com one fails WP:SPS; the www.kaldorcity.com one has taken its text from Celestial Toyroom, which is a fanzine and thus another WP:SPS; en.wikipedia.org is Wikipedia, which as I have just shown, is inadmissible in itself; www.warpedfactor.com has all the appearance of being another fansite (WP:SPS); the homepages.bw.edu one is a page created by a student at Baldwin Wallace University (WP:SPS); www.chakoteya.net is another fansite; the www.bbc.co.uk page makes absolutely no mention of either Anneke Wills or Wikipedia, so cannot be used as a source for the preceding sentence. Using seven sources - reliable or not - seems like banging home a point. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:52, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
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