Talk:Texas State University/Archive 1

Howdy. This is my University, so I thought I'd update the info on it, as some of it was slightly incorrect, and the notable alumni section was out of date. I plan to update this more when I get more time, and I'll try to look at some other pages of larger Universities and get this page in a similar format. Salami swami 19:38, Mar 4, 2004 (UTC)

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I've removed the following: San Marcos is the only habitat for the endangered San Marcos salamander. I'll move it instead to the article about San Marcos (if it isn't already there). --Gyrofrog 19:19, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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Moved from Texas State University talk page, which is now a redirect: "Texas State University has at least one famous alumni, Lyndon B. Johnson 36th president of the United States. Texas State was then known as Southwest Texas State Teachers College in San Marcos. Jonathan Hullihan, 2004 Texas State Alumni" -drivinghighway61 06:00, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Clean up POV

Deleted "selective" in opening sentence. Most every university requires an application of some sort. Yale not even described as "selective" in their wiki page. "Selective" comes from the university's own brochure. Thus, removed the term "selective" under Admissions Category, thus allowing reader to decide more objectively if admissions percentage is "selective" or not. Fred1442 (talk) 06:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Much of this text is taken directly from Texas State's (excellent) marketing materials. The tone through most of the article is laudatory rather than encyclopedic. I will clean up if I get a chance. Danlovejoy 19:29, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I did some editing to rectify this issue. I think it's to the point where the pov tag is no longer needed.Simoes 02:15, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Just finished looking at the Texas State website for a piece of information, then scanned the WP article, and the language is still largely the same. Most paragraphs are lifted from the site. CentralVA —Preceding comment was added at 15:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Athletics

Changed the athletics part to show that football actually plays in Division 1 AA not division 1.

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first sentence

"doctoral degree granting university" doesn't sound like the best wording. Perhaps just "doctoral" (see ut austin article).

Texas State Endowment?

Why isn't it listed on here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.239.201.177 (talk) 15:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Name Change

So, student government got the name changed, eh. That is an...amusing...take on the event. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.188.231.221 (talk) 02:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Biased/Unimportant Info

I think almost the entire "Student" section should be taken out. The goal of this wiki is not to market the university, but to provide information about it. I'm not sure the general public needs to know how great the debate team is and, specifically, nobody needs to know current/recent students' names. Or, conversely, if you wish to praise one particular extra-curricular activity, you'll have to praise all of them. However, I see no problem in mentioning the rankings of specific departments, etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dancingbonez (talk • contribs) 00:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problems

While I had at first intended to clean the article of pasted material and have already removed material pasted from the subpages of http://www.txstate.edu/about/history-traditions.html, further investigation shows that infringement may be more extensive than initially realized, as I have found content duplicated from the official site that had not previously been tagged. Accordingly, I am blanking the article to allow contributors an opportunity to decide how to proceed. Unless permission to use this text can be verified by the processes currently set out on the face of the article or (unlikely as it seems) it proves that the University has infringed upon Wikipedia, this article will likely have to be restored to the last version which can be verified to be copyright infringement free (right now, that seems to be early September, 2008). The matter will be relisted at the copyright problems board under today. If regular contributors do not choose to address the matter by revising in temporary space or obtaining permission, it will be resolved by an administrator—whether me or another—after seven days.

For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text.

I have semi-protected the article to prevent contributors unfamiliar with the Wikipedia environment inadvertently restoring copyrighted material to publication prior to the resolution of this. The "copypaste" templates were already removed. This is not acceptable, as Wikipedia cannot be used to contribute to infringement. I have no doubt that regular contributors will recognize that the "copyvio" template should be removed by an administrator. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

This evening I started rewriting the article. I had planned to do it in a sandbox on my user space until I had it finished. However, it appears people are wanting to remove the copyright violation notice. So if others want to help out with the rewrite I've copied what I worked on this evening into the temporary space for this article. I started with version of the article from September 2, 2008. That version also contained a lot of copyrighted text. So it too has to be written and sourced. I've done that for the sections up to "Academics and Faculty."

So, if others want to hop in to the temporary version and start rewriting and finding sources for text, that would be great. I'll continue on with it tomorrow. --TreyGeek (talk) 03:38, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I think we now have an article for Texas State that can be used in place of the copyright infringing article. You can find the rewritten article at Talk:Texas State University–San Marcos/Temp. Some notes on this article:

• I took the September 2008 version of the article as suggested by Moonriddengirl. It also contained some sections that were lifted from Texas State's website, those have been rewritten.
• Most statements in the article has been sourced (Student Life lacks references and is flagged as such. I doesn't appear to be copied from elsewhere). Most of the sources come from Texas State's website. This should not affect the ability for this version of the article to be used, but I realize that in the future, non-Texas State sources would be preferable.

If anyone has any suggestions for improvements (and for whatever reason doesn't have time to make them) let me know. Otherwise, this is the version that I'm proposing to the administrators to go into the article's main space. --TreyGeek (talk) 17:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Since having this article blanked has caused some dismay to readers, I have gone on ahead and put the new version in place. Thank you very much for giving that such swift attention. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:35, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Endowment

An anon IP (from Texas State's campus) is wanting to change the endowment in the infobox and is citing US News and World Reports. I do not believe this source can be reliable as it does not provide a date/year for what their number represents. I also notice that their number for the undergraduate enrollment doesn't match the latest numbers provided on the university's website. This, in my opinion, makes the US News data suspect in terms of accuracy. --TreyGeek (talk) 01:46, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

In addition, if another source could be found to verify either number, that would be even better. Unfortunately, I have not found a source to verify either number as of yet. --TreyGeek (talk) 01:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

P.S I am not from Texas state campus I live in Austin. The article does include a date May 25, 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.145.176.45 (talk) 01:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

1) Please do not delete other people's comments on talk pages. 2) The date at the top of the page is today's date that appears on all pages. It does not mean the data was released today or is current as of today. 3) My apologizes on the IP number mixup. 4) A second source to verify either number would still be very valuable. --TreyGeek (talk) 02:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

As a follow up, I still have not found a second source to verify either number for the endowment. However, I have noticed that the undergrad enrollment numbers on the US News and World Reports page (24,038) is the undergrad enrollment for Fall 2007[1]. Therefore, we may be able to assume that the endowment number they are reporting are also from Fall 2007. The previous endowment number, prior to the anon IP's edits, are from Fall 2008. The Fall 2008 numbers are more recent and would be preferable to use in the article.

Any arguments with this line of thinking? --TreyGeek (talk) 03:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I changed the endowment figure to reflect US News and World Report findings. The above author accused me of being on the Texas State campus, that is not true, you can lookup my IP, I live in Austin and am an alumnus from Baylor. The above author also states that the enrollment figures do not match, indeed they do, the university has 24000+ undergraduates and 5000+graduate students wich would reflect accurate enrollment figures. I believe that the above author must have something against Texas State University. You can also independantly confirm these figures, I have premium access to US News, my intention was to allow anyone to get a full glance of what I can view. You can not discredit a source if it is from a major website, if you disagree then buy memberships so you can confirm the source is accurate. The NACUBO study is also flawed, it reported UNT with endowment of 92 million when in reality it is in the 50 something million, when it was actually in the 70 million range but dropped to 50 million with the recession. Get your facts straight before you accuse someone with false statements. I can also see that TreyGreek likes to revert articles, he must have nothing better to do based on what other editors have written on his talk page. 71.145.176.45 (talk) 16:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC)J.M.

To again, address the issues with the data provided by the US News and World Reports site, they report an undergraduate enrollment of 24,038. The undergraduate enrollment for Fall 2008 as reported by Texas State University is 24,810. The 24,038 number is the correct undergraduate enrollment for Fall 2007 as shown here. Again, this leads me to assume that all of the data on the cited US News page to be from Fall 2007.

As for the accuracy of the NACUBO data, the information NACUBO publishes is provided by the respective universities. Their information is cited to support the endowment amounts for other pages on Wikipedia, including List of colleges and universities in the United States by endowment, Baylor University and the featured article Texas A&M University.

I still believe that a second, independent, source to verify either number would be best. Unfortunately, I still have been unable to find any other sources that state what Texas State's current endowment is at. --TreyGeek (talk) 16:57, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

campus pictures

i havent been on the texas state campuss. would be nice if someone had a slideshow of campus pictures, i hear it is a beautiful campus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LAREDOTX86 (talk • contribs) 02:27, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

i have inseted some pictures

71.145.174.178 (talk) 06:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Athletics Update

With the school building an addition to Bobcat Stadium, adding suites and such, and the change of the Texas State Athletics logo, can someone change these to mirror the alterations made by the school? Refer to Bobcats Refine Logo

--Trainerboblol (talk) 17:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I made several updates to the page such as combining the student section with student life and student media.. Trainerboblol (talk) 04:50, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Push to Increase quality and size of Article

Texas Tech university and texas A&m university's articles are rated featured articles by wikiversity, while texas state is rated start. I will be making various changes,adding and improving informaion, and looking to add references where ever needed. I ask that others help me with the intentions of raising the rating. --24.174.64.111 (talk) 16:24, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

You may want to make a request at the University WikiProject for someone to evaluate the page. It will likely result in a C or B rating. At the same time, the evaluator should post some comments on what needs to be improved.

One thing to note, for a good rating, references must be cited correctly. You can look at the citation templates at WP:CIT. You can also look at many of the references in the article as examples. When I rewrote the article to correct copyright infringement issues, I made sure to use the correct templates. Creating references as <ref>URL</ref> will not result in a good rating. --TreyGeek (talk) 22:49, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Fantastic Idea, and I do agree with you in regards to the referencing note. How would one go about getting this page reevaluated? Would you be willing to do it? --Geekster2253 (talk) 23:58, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

At the top of this page is a banner for the "WikiProject Universities." Go to their talk page and make the request. I've never evaluated a page before. I could find the procedure and the list of points that need to be met. However, considering I've made significant contributions to the article it would probably be best for a neutral person to do it. --TreyGeek (talk) 02:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Image Galleries

I am starting to grow uncomfortable with the image galleries in the article, particularly the ever growing Campus Gallery. The Wikipedia policy on image galleries allow for the use of them if they with certain restrictions:

The images in the gallery collectively must have encyclopedic value and add to the reader's understanding of the subject. Images in a gallery should be suitably captioned to explain their relevance both to the article subject and to the theme of the gallery, and the gallery should be appropriately titled (unless the theme of the gallery is clear from the context of the article).

It seems as if images of buildings, in the case of the campus gallery, are slowly being indiscriminately added without regard to the content of the article. I could understand images of notable buildings as they are being discussed it the article. However, I do not understand images of buildings for the sake of having images of buildings. Does this mean any image of any building on campus should be added? At what point are there enough images? These are concerns I have at the moment with regards to the image galleries. (Building can be substituted for alum in the case of the other image gallery). --TreyGeek (talk) 23:20, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I understand your point, and think it is a valid one. Maybe, we can keep majority of the pictures, but spread them throughout the article.. For instance, I do not see why we have two pictures of Alkek. Instead, we can include a minor section under "Campus" that gives facts about the library and can include a photo, thus deleting the two pictures of Alkek. Additionally, we could turn the gallery into a "Quad" gallery which would accompany a Quad section under "campus," in turn, keeping Derrick, Taylor Murphy, Central promenade, and Old Main. The coliseum picture could be moved to Athletics, while the Aquarena Springs picture could create another section under "academics," for Texas State's Water Related Research. The Administration building picture could either be moved elsewhere or deleted. Thoughts? --147.26.208.127 (talk) 20:04, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Adding material to the article and spreading the images around is a good idea. All we need is someone with the time to correctly write the additional sections. Unfortunately, it's not me at the moment. --TreyGeek (talk) 00:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I do agree that we only need 1 picture of alkek but i disagree that the gallery should be removed. Just take a look at Baylor University, TCU and the University of Pittsburgh (just to name a few). Pics of campus buildings are very important, after the Virginia Tech massacre people turned to wiki for info and got campus views of where the shootings took place. God forbid something like that ever happens at another university. If wiki didnt want galleries used, they wouldnt have made a gallery option. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.145.172.235 (talk) 05:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Thats cool. I dont have a problem with it, I was just thinking of solutions to TreyGeek's issue of having a gallery that is too big. The problem is, that there are so many pictures that could be included, that one may come to the conclusion that dividing it up into separate galleries could work better. I made a "central campus" gallery earlier but it was taken down due to copyright claims (which I am working on resolving).. Would you prefer one gigantic, broad campus gallery or have majority of the pictures with their proper sections? --Trainerboblol (talk) 18:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I see the IP's point on other articles using them. I was just pointing out that it really doesn't follow Wikipedia policy (as I quoted above). Also, in the articles cited by the IP, the campus galleries are near the bottom of the article and not in the middle (or at the start of the "Campus" section like here). I would also like to point out that featured university articles such as Texas A&M, Duke University, Georgetown University, and Texas Tech University (as well as other featured articles on universities) lack image galleries. However, if most people would prefer the image galleries to remain, that's fine. Wikipedia works on consensus. I'm just point out something I wasn't wild about it and figured to bring up the discussion rather than just removing it out of hand. --TreyGeek (talk) 23:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

And it also might be because FA's almost do not need huge campus galleries as their article tells their stories without them. I am against it, and like I said earlier, I think keeping the images, just moving them around would be best. If that is just me, then I will keep it off. My only point was that, there are SO many different neat pictures that can be posted to show off campus, but it shouldnt be done by throwing them into one gallery placed at the end of the article. Thoughts? --Trainerboblol (talk) 03:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Criminal justice doctoral degree

Resolved

Oh.. and I saw that TreyGeek reverted an edit of someone adding criminal justice as a doctoral degree. Refer to Texas State adds New Doctoral Degree--147.26.208.127 (talk) 20:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I reverted it. I checked the cited source and a couple other places on Texas State's website and did not find mention of a new doctoral program. That's why. Thanks for the source, I'll modify the article and add it back in with the new source. --TreyGeek (talk) 00:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I added back CJ with the proper source. I also cleaned up that section. Hopefully, it looks a little better. --TreyGeek (talk) 00:43, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Copyright Claims

Treygeek,

would you review my revisions made on my talk page? I would like to keep those sections about Alkek and the Quad, except without copyright problems.. I understand that I cannot paraphrase, and I feel as though I have fixed the issues. Feedback on my page is welcome as well.. Thanks, --Trainerboblol (talk) 18:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

If you were the one that made the edits from the IP I reverted last night, I would not call that paraphrasing. There were sections that were clearly cut/pasted from the University's website. That is a big no-no. I'll review what you have on your talk page later tonight. As long as you did not cut and paste whole paragraphs and sentences then it should be okay. --TreyGeek (talk) 23:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Fading out

While reading other major university articles, I noticed one big thing. Texas State's article compiles many

of these

while the others do not. I think we should make an effort to fade these out to help bring up the standards of the article. --147.26.208.127 (talk)

I concur. I will try it out to see how it looks. TxStateFAN (talk) 03:28, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I think after doing it, the article looks much more uniform and professional. I'd like others to continue what I have started. TxStateFAN (talk) 04:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree. On top of that, I am currently in the process of writing and adding information on each of the academic colleges. --Trainerboblol (talk) 19:52, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Name

A user made a recent change to the info box reverting the name from "Texas State University-San Marcos" to "Texas State University." This is not the name of the school, as I have changed it back to "Texas State University-San Marcos." On the University's website, you will only find "Texas State University-San Marcos" as with all of the signage posted on school grounds. An example being, as taken from the site, ...

Texas State University-San Marcos | 601 University Drive, San Marcos, Texas 78666 | 512.245.2111

Texas State University-San Marcos is a member of The Texas State University System | Accredited by Southern Association of Colleges and Schools

--147.26.208.127 (talk) 18:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Quality

I am very happy with the quality that this article has become. I think we should continue with the push and get it reevaluated once more changes have been made. When looking at the article back from July, there is no comparison. Nice Job guys. --Trainerboblol (talk) 18:27, 27 September 2009 (UTC) I also created a NavBox and am working on a User Template. --Trainerboblol (talk) 22:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

For anyone who wants it, Template:User TXST.. --Trainerboblol (talk) 22:58, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I just made major changes to the previous notable alumni section. I did so, and updated LBJ's picture, because I noticed that it was the format that Featured Articles, like, TTU took. Please, if you do not like it, dont just delete it; bring it to the message boards, as I spent a lot of time writing it. Overall thoughts on it? --Trainerboblol (talk) 03:38, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Flagship status

Resolved

Texas State University is not recognized by the state of Texas or by the Texas State University System. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.117.201.206 (talk) 20:56, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I believe there was a reference to the school's flagship status preceding the statement. You are not the first to bring this up, and probably will not be the last. Flagship status, as you know, can be described as a nationally recognized, research buff university representing a state on the national level, or it can be recognizing the major institution in the system who is leading in enrollment, research and other things. Texas State University - San Marcos is the flagship university for the Texas State University System as described in the reference provided. [2]. I did not add that reference to the article, someone else did. 147.26.87.16 (talk) 21:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I reverted your changes; please do not undo those that I made until this issue is resolved here on the discussion page. Creating a back and forth editing war between two users is not going to settle this debacle. 147.26.87.16 (talk) 21:36, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

The reference you have provided links to a .info website that is poorly maintained and is nothing, but a directory for US colleges. The reference is not an official record by the state of Texas or the TSUS. Additionally, it is a POV that TSU is the major university in the system, especially since you are posting from TSU's network. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.117.201.206 (talk) 22:43, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

So, you know how to track IP addresses, how does this impair anything? There is no doubt, regardless of where I am editing from, that Texas State is the leading institution in the system (aka flagship). It has the greatest endowment and enrollment, all while granting the most degrees. It does more research (which is not very much compared to other flagship universities), and has more resources than any of its sister schools. Conversely, a "Flagship" status is not a point that has to be explicitly stated, but more inferred through a school's name and credentials. This is why university and city officials (along with websites stating facts) use the term when speaking about Texas State. Here is another reference. [3].

Suppose I am offering up a challenged view.. If not Texas State, who would you say is at the heart of the system? --147.26.87.16 (talk) 23:49, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

To add my two cents into the discussion. Initially I was against calling Texas State University-San Marcos the "flagship" of the system. I even reverted early changes that stated so. Then someone cited a source the states the San Marcos campus is the flagship. Wikipedia works because all statements are supposed to be cited to verifiable and (if possible) third-party sources. Just because we don't like a source doesn't mean we can ignore it. If you don't like the San Marcos campus being referred to as the flagship, find a source that explicitly states it is not the flagship.

I'd also like to note that TSU is Texas Southern University and has been that way for a long time. That abbreviation should not be used in relation to Texas State University. --TreyGeek (talk) 23:55, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

From what I have heard over the years, Texas State's abbreviation is TXST rather than TSU. It is odd though, because Fox 7, in Austin, still refers to it as TSU. --YouCanUseaMint (talk) 17:28, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I would like to point out the fact that the reference cites a paper local to San Marcos, which is again a baised opinion. I have a statement from a regent of the Texas State University System Board of Regents, who has explicitly stated and I quote ,"I am delighted to be serving as a regent to the Texas State University System, It's unique in Texas because it's a 'horizontal' system, with no 'flagship'" [[4]]. The wikipedia article itself quotes "The term may also be used to refer to a designation bestowed by a state university system, and it is common for state university officials to use the term "flagship" in official contexts" Flagship#University_campuses.65.117.201.206 (talk) 01:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

You never answered my question, how come? Let me correct your first point. San Antonio and San Marcos are two completely different cities located in Texas. San Antonio is the seventh largest city in the US; Texas State is located in San Marcos, a smaller town located 35 minutes away. Following your first point, the article from Sam Houston is dated to be in 2007, while a reputable news organization cites Texas State as the Flagship in 2009. I would even go as far as to question your source as it is SHSU reporting; they have always been against Texas State being the flagship (notice, I did not give you any from Texas State's news like this one [5] which refers to San Marcos having the flagship campus). This is why there was so much uproar from them when Texas State changed their name. If what the SHSU graduate said is true, then it is bound to be on the website somewhere - in publications or what not; but for some reason, I could not find anything pertaining to what the Vice Chairwoman said. --147.26.87.16 (talk) 02:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

To answer your question about IP, since you are connected to TX State Univ., your opinion about the flagship is not a NPOV. If you want a neutral source that is citing the same thoughts. Here's one: [[6]]. Can you answer to the question of an official designation of flagship by the Texas State University? My source is directly proving from a TSUS authority as well as from wikipedia? 71.231.102.238 (talk) 05:12, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Let me weigh in right quick. I think that living on campus, or attending the school discussed, would question WP's NPOV, however, with references provided, it should not matter where the user resides. I also think that, because you provided valid information stating the information debated is incorrect, news sources obviously have their facts wrong. Do you think that those who contribute to A&M's FA have nothing to do with the school, let alone attend the school? I would say that students everywhere edit their own campus page as they have the most insight and with proper citation, their edits are valid. I call this issue resolved until someone can find an official, Regent, or TSUS website stating the contrary. --YouCanUseaMint (talk) 16:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

History of Boko the Bobcat

This edit removed poorly sourced information, merged from Boko the Bobcat, which contradicted information already on the page. The information already on the page is also somewhat problematic in that it only cites primary sources. Additional sources are necessary for verifiability. Cnilep (talk) 21:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Attendance updates

I updated the fall 2009 attendance numbers with official results from the university's office of Institutional Research, which is a part of Enrollment Management and Marketing. In the interest of full disclosure, I work for the Office of University Marketing. My name is David King, dk18@txstate.edu. Since the Wikipedia entry for the university is now going to be tied to the Texas State "community" page on Facebook, we wanted the numbers to reflect the official information. Our changes, now and in the future, will be minimal. Kingdr13 (talk) 18:02, 22 April 2010 (UTC)kingdr13

Reset Discussions

All the discussions were 2010 or older and the list was long, so I archived them. Enjoy the new discussion page! Alshain01 (talk) 15:00, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi. The Research University tab needs editing because I know that (atleast one of the campuses of) the University of Houston is already a full research university and has been for many years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.37.5.30 (talk) 01:34, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

This article has passed Good Article

This article has passed good article. Congratulations on a high quality and informative article. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 16:09, 18 November 2012 (UTC) Reviewer

Citation to style guide that use of "TSU" is discouraged

This style guide citation is relevant only to people who are writing on behalf of the university, such as employees of the university for university publications. It's completely irrelevant to anyone who doesn't work for the university or is otherwise subject to following this style guide—and obviously anyone who doesn't work the univeristy can't be subject to it. All that is important is whether the abbreviation "TSU" is sufficiently well-known by the general public as indicating this particular university. 98.169.18.133 (talk) 04:33, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

TSU is discouraged as that abbreviation more often refers to Texas Southern University. If you think otherwise, can you provide reliable sources showing that Texas State is commonly referred to as "TSU"? --TreyGeek (talk) 13:28, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

if it's the case that the public does not use the abbreviation "TSU" it is still inappropriate to cite the official policy in the lead sentence. The purpose if an encyclopedia is not to cite official rules. The solution is to keep the footnote but remove the text. Acsenray (talk) 01:34, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

That's fine by me. --TreyGeek (talk) 01:39, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

2013 Name Change

A note to anyone coming across this article. As noted in the history section of this article, the Texas legislature and the governor have passed a bill changing the university's name. However, it does not become official until September 1, 2013. Until that time, the school's name still contains "-San Marcos" and this article should not be changed. On/About September 1 a number of changed need to be made throughout this article, including the title of the article. However, again, until that time, no changes should be made to the name of the university in the article. --TreyGeek (talk) 02:18, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

External links modified

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Friday Night Lights

The fictional TMU of Friday Night Lights was "Texas Memorial University". While anyone with much familiarity with the context probably saw that this school was essentially the fictional equivalent of the University of Texas at Austin, I don't really know of any published reliable sources that explicitly state this. However, it could be that some episode that I don't recall or never saw may mention a "Texas Methodist University", so I am not changing this at this time, but really think that the real Texas State was in fact the campus of the fictional "Texas Memorial". 2600:1004:B12E:AFA8:5171:2E27:1CA0:711E (talk) 01:30, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion

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Corrections Needed

Under the heading ===Student Body=== university needs to make corrections: 1. Citation for fall 2018 enrollment figure is outdated (citation is from May 2018, figures are for fall 2018. 2. The number of undergrads/grads is inaccurate because it does not total to the overall fall 2018 enrollment. Better to give an approximate percentage of undergrad/grad than to five exact numbers, which change every semester. 3. The freshman acceptance rate is badly outdated--2012! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomofaquino (talk • contribs) 16:41, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Repeated removal of former names from infobox

An unregistered editor is insisting that this article cannot include the former names of the university in the article's infobox. In this most recent edit, they used this edit summary: "[T]he formal names have been introduced in the main content multiple times. It's a really long list and may influence the clearly showing of other content in the right column. Remove the duplicated formal name in the right column."

We do not remove information from the infobox because it's duplicated in the body of the article. That is completely normal and expected as the infobox is intended to summarize critical information about the subject with further details provided in the article.

The objection that the list is long is not without merit. But I'm not sure that argument alone justifies removing this information from the infobox of this article.

I would support opening a broader discussion at Template talk:Infobox university about this parameter and what and how much information should be included. More specifically, I would support clarifying that only the most important, long-lasting, or noteworthy names should be included in cases where an institution has many former names or ones that are particularly long. But until that discussion is held, I do not support editing this article alone to remove information that is (intended to be) included in every article about colleges and universities. ElKevbo (talk) 22:20, 6 September 2022 (UTC)