Talk:Suzaku Kururugi

Creation of article

Just created this article, with help from Code Geass list of characters page, feel free to make it better. =D --Monstez 08:16, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Regarding "Suzaku not possessing any outward superhuman abilities"

It has been shown throughout the anime and supplemental materials that Suzaku is beyond a human being in terms of natural talent. He has superhuman vision being able to see a bird's nest on a tree two mountains away with just a binocular, has superhuman speed in his arms being faster than a mechanical egg beater, has superhuman speed in his legs being able to outrun Knightmare Frames, has superhuman reaction time being able to dodge bullets at point blank range and from automatic machine guns, and most of all, he's able to learn how to pilot anything just by using a manual and a simulation game once. He learned to drive a truck by playing a video game. He also has abnormal strength in that he can lift two people with one arm, and in one case, whether truly canon or not, lift the leg of his Lancelot with his entire strength. His precision is also topnotch, being able to control his entire body to disarm a swinging pendulum bomb's wires from the air. He is able to jump long distances while doing his signature spin kick move and has the uncanny ability to hear from very long distances or even if it's faint, like when he saved a girl from under the rubble in one of his campaigns in Europe that Cecile, Gino and Anya never even heard.

I'd like to add this point to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NanayaIchirou (talk • contribs) 00:07, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey dude. Discuss with me first before you delete the abilities of Suzaku, which are CANON. What show were you watching if you won't accept the abilities that he had? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.153.124 (talk) 03:13, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree that since the part of the article SAID ABILITIES, Suzaku's abilities should BE explained to the fullest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NanayaIchirou (talk • contribs) 03:18, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the plot in this article

This article, like largely all the other Code Geass character articles(last I checked the only characters who have any real-world content at all in their articles are Lelouch and Kallen), is just basically plot dump.

From WP:NOT: "Plot summaries. Wikipedia treats fiction in an encyclopedic manner; discussing the reception, impact and significance of notable works. A concise plot summary is appropriate as part of the larger coverage of a fictional work."

Basically, this article SHOULD have a plot summary that is relevant to Suzaku (one that is as short as possible, might I add), but more importantly it has to have stuff that's relevant to our world, such as how Sunrise/CLAMP determined his looks and personality, what kind of reception he's had, the kind of impact he made if any, among other such things.

I see none of that here. Therefore we should try and find such information, and shorten the plot summary. If we can't do the former, I think it should be merged into List of Code Geass characters.HadesDragon (talk) 05:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

See here.

-- Fallacies (talk) 11:37, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Why not add the 'Spinzaku' bit?

It was noted that there's a Spinzaku bit because fans have seen Suzaku doing a mid-air spin kick which was enjoyable, & there are videos in YouTube that are making tributes to that. Can't you put a 'Trivia' paragraph about this 'Spinzaku' bit? Because fans do enjoy it.SilentmanX (talk) 15:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Seconded. 68.114.140.48 (talk) 18:45, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

This is not not an encyclopedia, not a fanpedia.JohnWycliff (talk) 14:00, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Suzaku of the Counterattack?

Does anyone know anything about Suzaku's role in this manga version? 203.206.108.101 (talk) 13:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC) This series follows Suzaku's side of the story, while Lelouch of the Rebellion follow's Lelouch's. (taken from ANN)--TheRoyalist234 (talk) 23:22, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Suzacku of the couter attack dosent neccaserly follow his side it follows a differant plot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.197.176.128 (talk) 21:42, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Antivillian?

I disagree that Suzaku's characters fits the definition of "anti-villain". According to the Antivillain page, "An antivillain is a character in a film, drama or literary work who pursues undeniably villainous ends, but employs methods that are arguably noble in order to advance his interests". Suzaku, from what I know, does not pursue villainous ends. His goal, ultimately, is the same as Lelouch's: a peaceful world. Only the methods are different. Suzaku joined Britannia to change it "from the inside" while Lelouch attempts to destroy the entire Britannia empire. Ketat10250 (talk) 22:17, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Suzaku is no don't in my mind an Anti Villain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.207.75.219 (talk) 16:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Zero

As you all know, I believe this should be listed as his "Alias", in his information box, after the events of R2.

I was thinking the same thing also, but I was also thinking that since Suzaku is now known as Zero it would also make sense for him as the new leader of the Black Knight. - SilentmanX (talk) 14:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Seems people just take it out now that his alias is Zero. mainly Rouge Penguin. It counts as an alias for Lelouch and should carry on for Suzaku. He assumes the masked identity of Zero, so it's his new alias. Suzaku is dead to the world after everything. DaisukeVulgar (talk) 04:50, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

The guy is the new Zero, so that would make him the new leader of the Black Knights. So why not put that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.76.195.213 (talk) 14:04, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

some points of confusion

I'm a little confused over some of the material that is present in this article, which seems to contradict much of what is presented in the anime. Speficially, the following:

-The first section states that he was made the pilot of the Lancelot because "Britannia won't risk actual pilots on an experimental craft", while the first episode makes it fairly clear he was made the pilot because he happened to be there and the actual person Lloyd had in mind to pilot the Lancelot was not. I had always assumed the person Lloyd was referring to was Jeremiah but was told it's not clear enough to make that assumption.

-In his abilities section, it states he is rated at 94% efficiency "by Lloyd based from his simulator scores". Lloyd's conversation immediately prior to offering him the Lancelot key makes it pretty clear that this was the first time he and Suzaku had met, as he wasn't even sure Suzaku knew how to pilot a Knightmare, so I'd think it'd be unlikely he would have rated anything Suzaku had done before. In addition, it is also very strongly implied, if not outright states, that the efficiency rating in question was measured while Suzaku was piloting the Lancelot in Shinjuku, rather than some event which occurred before the beginning of the show.

Is there some supplemental material out there that supersedes what was presented in the anime?--71.123.61.240 (talk) 08:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)