Talk:Subjectivity

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Enhancing subjectivity

Certain types of consciousness are associate with enhanced subjectivity. Meditators have shown greater degrees of coherent alpha waves in the prefrontal lobes. Those meditator's states are largely considered to be very subjective, so there is an association between those alphawaves and the subjective experience.

The tradition of Vedanta established by Sankara of Indian fame mentions that the subject, the spiritual aspirant, who is equated with a spirit, a consciousness, "engulphs" the objective world. Also, there is mentioned a separateness and self-sufficiency to the subject that the objective world lacks. The objective world is said to totally depend on the subject. The subject is known as the "Seer" or "seer" and the objective world is known as the "seen". The engulphing of the seen by the seer begins by the fulfillment of the purpose of ths seen by the realization that the seen is for the seer. As this happens, the seen dissolves and the Seer abides in its own essence. GreySun (talk) 22:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)high

This is certainly another look onto subjectivity!! Dudanotak (talk) 08:22, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Body of the article

The two sections in the body of this article were written without any references and are actually no more than my own thoughts on the subject, something I realize is un-wiki like extremely, yet I can't bring myself to delete them because I am not trying to impose any biased information (at least for the most part), and because there is absolutely nothing else in this article- so it is at least good for people visiting this article to have some food for thought. That said, I do want to corroborate the words that I have written in order to give them validity and get rid of them if they end up being unverifiable. So I am working on doing some research for this article which I also do not understand why it is so empty!! Dudanotak (talk) 06:10, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Of course, I could write my own philosophy book with my own thoughts on the subject. That way people (not _necessarily_ me) may decide for themselves how seriously to take my ideas (It is possible that using Deductive reasoning based on my initial assumptions, I arrive at an absurdity, then I might very well no longer take my ideas presented here seriously). If they agree with my ideas, then they may very well write an encyclopedia article and then cite my work as a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Professor arithmetic (talk • contribs) 03:57, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Perspectives

I think that I've observed that Omnipaedista (a dimension of awareness) and Wolfdog (grounds for predictable errors of judgment) have different opinions or perspectives about what 'subjectivity' is. I think that this contrast is grounds for what could become an edit war. I think they should talk this out before further editing. MaynardClark (talk) 05:20, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Philosophical schools

This article could mention philosophical schools such as Existentialism and Positivism, with the positivsts concentrating on the objective world, the existentialists concentrating on the subjective world. At least, this is what the paper version of the Encyclopedia Brittanica once said. Vorbee (talk) 10:52, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Vorbee: Thanks! I just added a paragraph focusing on Sartre concerning this suggestion. Dudanotak (talk) 22:34, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Merger discussion

Currently there is a circular definition between the two topics:

• "Subjectivity in a philosophical context has to do with a lack of objective reality."
• "In philosophy, objectivity is the concept of truth independent from individual subjectivity..."

fgnievinski (talk) 04:30, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

• Merge per WP:OVERLAP. Treetoes023 (talk) 19:10, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Merge, since the two topics depend on each other. Better to describe the duality all at once. Wolfdog (talk) 22:39, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

The best name might be Objectivity and subjectivity. Wolfdog (talk) 17:47, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Instead merge with Subject (philosophy). FatalSubjectivities (talk) 08:41, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

: The article lacks a clear structure and organization, making it difficult for readers to follow the flow of information. It would benefit from an introduction that presents a thesis statement or main argument, followed by logically organized paragraphs that provide supporting information. Providing a clear definition of Objectivity and explain its importance in relation to Subjectivity would give the article Clear structure with opposing concepts that would offer deeper understanding. Djward21 (talk) 20:48, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Ref 4 is incorectly cited

The ref should be Subjectivity in debate: Some reconstructed philosophical premises to advance its discussion in psychology https://doi.org/10.1111/jtsb.12200 151.210.236.67 (talk) 02:12, 7 March 2023 (UTC)