Talk:Sonic Youth/GA1

Latest comment: 14 years ago by David Fuchs in topic GA Reassessment

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GA Reassessment edit

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As part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles' Project quality task force ("GA Sweeps"), all old good articles are being re-reviewed to ensure that they meet current good article criteria (as detailed at WP:WIAGA.) I have determined that this article needs some work to meet current criteria, outlined below:

  • There are a lot of unsourced sections of the article, most not anything that could be considered common knowledge and thus not need verification. Some examples include:
    • "After their first record, Edson quit the group for a modestly successful acting career and was replaced by Bob Bert."
    • "Sister sold 60,000 copies and received very positive reviews, becoming the first Sonic Youth album to crack the Top 20 of the Village Voice's Pazz & Jop critics poll."
    • "In 1992, the band released Dirty on the DGC label. Their influence as tastemakers continued with their discovery of acclaimed skateboard video director Spike Jonze, who they recruited for the video for "100%", which also featured skateboarder turned actor Jason Lee. This song, along with the Gordon tune "JC" contain lyrical references to the murder of Joe Cole, a friend who worked with the band as a roadie. The album features artwork by Los Angeles-based artist Mike Kelley. In addition, Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise opened on numerous occasions for Sonic Youth in the late 90s. "Dirty" features a guest appearance by Ian McKaye (Minor Threat and Fugazi) playing guitar on the track "Youth Against Fascism"."
    • "The album was filled with low-key melodies and even produced a hit single, "Bull in the Heather". Moore and Gordon's daughter, Coco Hayley Gordon Moore was born earlier in the year, and many of the songs from the album were never played live because there was never a full tour to support the album due to Gordon's pregnancy."
    • "Gordon collaborated in Free Kitten, and started a clothing label X-Girl, based in Los Angeles. Ranaldo and Moore have played with many experimental/noise musicians, including William Hooker, Nels Cline, Tom Surgal, Don Dietrich, Christian Marclay and Mission of Burma, among others. Shelley runs the Smells Like Records record label, as well as playing in backing bands for Chan Marshall (Cat Power) and Two Dollar Guitar."
    • And so on and so forth.
  • What makes DVDtalk, thrasherswheat.org, guitarplayer reliable sources? Also, citing Wikipedia is a definite no-no.
  • File:Sonic Youth Teenage Riot.ogg has a rather poor fair use rationale, as specific song information is not mentioned in the article, and it's not the subject of significant critical commentary here.
  • Paragraphs by definition require at least three sentences, and there are multiple locations (including the lead) where there are one and two-sentence groupings.

I am putting the article on hold for one week, longer if significant improvements are being made in that period. Keep me updated or ask questions on this page. Thanks, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 19:51, 28 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

The article should be pretty easy to source, since there are at least four biographies on the group. I personally have access to three. However, I'm not sure if I can contribute to the article in the time alloted for two reasons, the first being available free time, and the other being I find it difficult to research Sonic Youth (I find reading about them at length boring and tedious). WesleyDodds (talk) 06:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

The last two refs point to wiki articles/sections. Ceoil sláinte 16:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
  • As no significant progress has been made in the time allotted, I am delisting. The article may be renominated at WP:GAN at any time, but I encourage improvement in the above issues first. I don't watchlist old reviews, so take any questions or comments to my talk page. Thanks, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 18:00, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
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